Amps
[Top] [All Lists]

Re: [Amps] TL 922 Problem

To: g4vqh@postmaster.co.uk
Subject: Re: [Amps] TL 922 Problem
From: R.Measures <r@somis.org>
Date: Sat, 24 Apr 2004 08:02:49 -0700
List-post: <mailto:amps@contesting.com>

On Apr 23, 2004, at 1:57 PM, Michael Clutton wrote:




3-500Z Problem

Some time ago in a chain of TS 850S driving a TL922 linear amplifier, an 'incident' occurred during initial switch-on and tuning into a dummy load. There was a catastrophic failure of the transceiver, but the state of the linear amplifier was at that stage unknown. The transceiver failure was eventually located, and turned out to be due to the short-circuit of one of the front-end steering diodes, and when this was replaced the transceiver operated normally again in all respects.

The TL922 was now tested in the same configuration as before, and functioned normally up to about half power. But then the plate current began to increase uncontrollably. The circuitry was examined, and it appeared that the Zener bias diode had failed, but there were signs that one of the grid chokes had at some time experienced a flash-over, although it appeared to be otherwise sound.

The Zener diode was replaced, and once again the chain was tested. Again there was plate current instability at some level. Then the suspect grid choke was replaced also, but tests again indicated instability at about half-power.

 Michael -- The TL-922 has a high-Q resonance in the anode circuit at c. 120MHz. This resonant circuit can be observed by coupling a dipmeter to either side of the DC blocking capacitor. There is a total feedback capacitance of 0.3pF (c.4000-ohms of XC at 120MHz) in 2, 3-500Zs. Since 3-500Zs exhibit fairly good gain at 120MHz, occasionally, things can get squirrelly as well as noisy. The fix is not difficult. There's an article about the TL-922 on my Web site.

By using a tube of the same filament rating in one socket, but with no plate voltage applied, a test was then made of the amplifier operating with only one 3-500Z in the other socket. The behaviour of the amplifier was that one tube produced about the right output power, but the other showed distinct plate-current instability at a much lower power. Now the question:


Is it your experience that a 3-500Z (Eimac) can appear to be quite sound in respect of filament emission, but exhibit plate-current instability under some drive conditions. In essence the question amounts to what now needs to be done. Should one or both tubes be replaced by new ones, or should one look for some other fault in the circuitry (which appears to be all in order)?

If one or both of the tubes has had an internal flash-over, and something (the grid?) is damaged, can anything be done to salvage the tube(s)?

 When a 120MHz parasite occurs, there is no load to absorb the energy since the MF/HF tank is a low-pass filter. This causes a burst of high grid-current which exerts an EMF between the grid and the source of grid current -- i, e., the filament/cathode. The force produced does not damage the unheated molybdneum grid, but the hot (1820ºK) filament can sometimes be bent sideways until it shorts against the grid. The fix for a filament-grid short is to replace the tube. However, usually only the inboard tube shorts, so if a tube with a similar Mu is used as a replacement for the Eimac, only the bad tube needs replacing. RF-Parts currently sells 3-500Zs that have a Mu similar to the old Eimacs.
- cheers

Any help you can give would be appreciated. de Mike G4VQH



___________________________________________________
Build strong relationships with your customers on Officemaster. Free trial!


http://www.officemaster.net

_______________________________________________
Amps mailing list
Amps@contesting.com
http://lists.contesting.com/mailman/listinfo/amps


Richard L. Measures, AG6K, 805.386.3734. www.somis.org

_______________________________________________
Amps mailing list
Amps@contesting.com
http://lists.contesting.com/mailman/listinfo/amps

<Prev in Thread] Current Thread [Next in Thread>