Might want to require proof of license to banter on this reflector?
73 all, Jim.
----- Original Message -----
From: Rich <2@vc.net>
To: mark <mark@sandlabs.com>; AMPS <amps@contesting.com>
Sent: Wednesday, December 04, 2002 6:51 PM
Subject: Re: [Amps] CBer??
>
>
> >Well, In contrast with Mr. FuQua, I am quite young... Only 24, you see
...
> >However I had been able to acumulate 2 MS (Physics and EE) from MIT and
one
> >PhD (BioMaterials) from Pasteur France
>
> It might be interesting to check these claims out with said institutions.
> >
> >... Acording to Mr FuQua, because I did not ask the HAM comunity to teach
me
> >the priciple of a capacitor I am a stupid CBer :)... what can I say ...
Bad
> >apples have many ways to show them selves :)
> >
> >Keep it up Bill... one of these days you WILL grow up :)
> >Mark
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >----- Original Message -----
> >From: <TimNebo@aol.com>
> >To: <wlfuqu00@uky.edu>
> >Cc: <amps@contesting.com>
> >Sent: Wednesday, December 04, 2002 11:32 AM
> >Subject: Re: [Amps] CBer??
> >
> >
> >> In a message dated 12/4/02 9:57:23 AM Central Standard Time,
> >wlfuqu00@uky.edu
> >> writes:
> >>
> >> > I was raised to obey laws. So when after listing to
shortwave
> >for
> >> > a few years I became interested in becoming a radio operator.
> >> > Those days you had to have a CB license to operate and to
> >obtain
> >> > one you had to be at least 18 years old. With the
> >> > limitations of range and power it was obvious that I should get a
ham
> >> > license. I first got my novice and then
> >> > general about 8 months later. I built my first transmitter (200 watt
> >CW)
> >> > while I was in the 8th grade. I designed it
> >> > myself using information from the Radio Amateurs Handbook. I don't
> >think
> >> I
> >> > would have been motivated to do so
> >> > as a CB operator because of the lack of knowledge of the people that
I
> >> > would have been working with as compared to
> >> > the ham radio community. By being in the ham community I had access
to
> >> lots
> >> > of experienced people when I needed
> >> > help.
> >> >
> >> > CB would been quite a distraction and would delayed my
> >electronics
> >> > education considerably. I may not have become
> >> > an engineer if I had not become a ham. It was my eagerness to
> >understand
> >> > electronics as a ham that improved my math
> >> > skills to the point where I could pursue a carrier in electronics.
I
> >was
> >> > on of those that needed apply math to
> >> > understand it well.
> >> > Today, such things as internet and CB are just distractions
> >for
> >> > young people. On CB they learn right away to
> >> > get amplifiers and make mods to operate illegally and no motivation
to
> >> > really learn anything except vulgar vocabulary.
> >> >
> >> > I am now am involved in teaching young people radio theory
and
> >> > construction techniques to advance them beyond
> >> > just having a license. And in doing so they are also introduced to
RF
> >> > applications in science and medicine.
> >> > RF technology is not just used communication.
> >> >
> >> > 73
> >> > Bill wa4lav
> >>
> >>
> >> interesting response bill. thank you very much. but i must say i've
taken
> >> quite the different path as you and i'm still on my long journey to
reach
> >a
> >> place where most of the men on this list have gone or will go with
there
> >> knowledge and its a terrible thing to hear you belittle me or anybody
else
> >> who seeks knowledge, learning, and understanding just because of the
> >> background we come from. what if your elmers had taken this approach to
> >you
> >> all those many years ago just because you were too young? or because
you
> >were
> >> too short? or too tall? or for any of these silly reasons? i understand
> >how
> >> ham radio used to be and it sounds like a lovely and fond old memory
that
> >i
> >> wish i could share with you but unfortunately i can't as i'm much too
> >young.
> >> my radio beginnings were in 1988 when i was 8 years old. i bought a
little
> >> receiver from a garage sale that was able to cover the 49 meter sw band
as
> >> well as some vhf utilities and such that got me curious on the goings
on
> >of
> >> radio and it never ended from there. at the age of 12 i saved enough to
> >buy
> >> my first cb rig which was very simple and i made my first antenna which
> >was a
> >> sad looking 1/4 wave groundplane for which i found a schematic in an
old
> >book
> >> at my local library. i promise you the satisfaction felt by me as a
still
> >12
> >> year old kid who just made his very first working antenna was not
> >diminished
> >> at all due to the fact that it was trimmed for 27 megs instead of 28
megs.
> >> the satisfaction was the same and it felt good to talk with something
i've
> >> made. it wasn't long before i found out all about skip as the cycle was
> >still
> >> hot back then and it begin to interest me. i did all of the reading i
> >could,
> >> listened to the ten meter repeaters on the police scanner, practiced my
> >code
> >> with a home built oscillator, and even contacted a local ham radio
group
> >that
> >> i seen something about in the news paper. it was with this group that i
> >found
> >> out the attitude towards me was very negative because of the fact i had
> >> stumbled upon cb radio first instead of ham radio. these guys basically
> >made
> >> a young man who was soaking up knowledge at a fast rate feel like a
little
> >> boy with a walkie talkie who knew nothing. now at the time i thought
these
> >> guys were real super duper first class operators with all of there
fancy
> >rigs
> >> and big antennas but after a lot of thinking and realizing it seemed to
me
> >> that they were nothing more than a bunch of unfriendly A--holes with a
> >> superiority complex because they were "licensed operators" and i was
not.
> >> until then i was really ready to join the ranks of ham radio but
decided
> >i'd
> >> rather not have anything to do with a bunch of men who consider me less
> >than
> >> themselves simply because i came from a cb background and they did not
> >(i'm
> >> real sure some did but wont admit it). now i assure you i did not let
them
> >> stop me from anything other than getting a piece of paper as i still
did
> >all
> >> of the learning, experimenting, and fun things that any kid in ham
radio
> >> growing up at the time did except i did them on the illegal 27
megahertz
> >> freqs and a lot of times with higher than legal limit power. i'm not
here
> >to
> >> debate the merits of law with anybody. what i do and have done is
illegal
> >> pirate radio no doubt about it but IT IS RADIO and the theories,
> >principals,
> >> and drive that motivates us all to do it is the same regardless of
> >> legalities. bill i wish i grew up in the era of homebrewing and point
to
> >> point wiring like most of you did so i could have the fond memories
like
> >you
> >> do but most of the advances these days are with software instead of
> >hardware
> >> and you have to have a wide range of both to be able to do anything
good
> >for
> >> the radio hobby in general and that key mostly lies with the young
people.
> >> its my advice you guys start accpeting and elmering anybody who is
> >interested
> >> in radio these days regardless of background or you may one day find
> >yourself
> >> without a hobby radio service at all.
> >>
> >> 73 de Tim Kp82
> >> www.KpDxGroup.net
> >>
> >> "The ability to make (and keep) many friends on the band, is the most
> >> powerful capability of your radio. This can only be achieved through
QSO,
> >not
> >> QSL"
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