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Subject: [AMPS] Clipperton L amplifier
From: baycock@HIWAAY.NET (Bill Aycock)
Date: Wed, 24 Jan 2001 17:04:07 -0600
Tom- Thanks very much. This is the most specific information I have
recieved on the Clipperton and related Amps. It makes me a little
aprehensive, but tells me what to look for, and what to consider for
protection. 

Bill-W4BSG

At 07:42 AM 1/24/01 -0500, you wrote:
>
>Hi Bill.
>
>> are a little inconsistent. Can you clarify which amps were operated
>> which way?
>> 
>> Bill-W4BSG
>
>
>You can make any Clipperton modified for ten meters oscillate 
>quite easily.
>
>Set the band switch to ten meters. Mesh the loading control in and 
>tune the plate control near minimum C while the PA is keyed. You 
>can watch the parasitic resistors go up in smoke as the PA 
>oscillates above 20 MHz and below the six meter band.
>
>Virtually all un-neutralized 572B or 811A amplifier using four tubes 
>will oscillate on 20 Mhz or somewhat higher because the tubes 
>have excessive feedthrough on upper HF.
>
> There are even cases where two 572B's are unstable. The Yaesu 
>FL-2100 is one example. If you remove the load and driver, key the 
>FL2100, and rotate the tuning and loading controls it will oscillate 
>on frequencies above 14 MHz or so. That is why Svetlana 572B's, 
>which require more cut-off bias than other 572B's, will oscillate in a 
>FL-2100 when the PA is on standby. The tubes remain in 
>conduction, the antenna relay drops, and the input and output are 
>"open circuited". The PA takes off at or near the operating 
>frequency, and parts get toasted.
>
>Svetlana's patch was to increase cut-off bias, but the core problem 
>is really that the PA needs neutralized to compensate for the high 
>feedthrough of 572B's.     
>
>You'll find, when driven, the plate current dip is not near maximum 
>output, and the maximum grid current is not at anode resonance 
>either. Both are indicators of uncontrolled feedback at the operating 
>frequency. Both clearly show up in the Clipperton and the FL2100 
>Yaesu.
>
>Oscillations near the operating frequency are particularly bad, 
>because system Q is high at that frequency so the tank can store 
>a lot of energy. Opening the loading control up (while running into a 
>load like an antenna) loads the tank, and reduces Q and feedback 
>in the PA.
>
>
>73, Tom W8JI
>w8ji@contesting.com
>
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Bill Aycock   ---   Persimmon Hill 
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 (in the N.E. corner of the State)
      W4BSG   --   Grid EM64vr
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