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Subject: [AMPS] CBers The last Word?
From: teamw@quixnet.net (teamw)
Date: Wed, 30 Aug 2000 23:41:50 -0400
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Surely the answer to much, although not all of the problems mentioned =
concerning the appalling noise on the 11 mtr band and its repercussions =
to the adjacent band users is for all legal, law abiding radio =
operators, both Amateur and CB to petition the FCC to fess up to their =
incredibly poor decision to allocate the 11 mtr band for CB in the first =
place?
Petition them for a reallocation of the CB band to UHF. Give notice that =
in 5 years (or appropriate period) the citizens band at 11 mtrs would =
become extinct and that all operations will move to a specified UHF =
segment (already allocated for this purpose) and probably NBFM. Stiff =
fines for use of the 11 mtr band for CB after a given date allowing for =
equipment obsolescense.The manufacturers and support services would love =
it and equipment would soon be forthcoming.
CB would then become more like what it was intended for, personal or =
business LOCAL communications.
 I believe the catalyst for the problems we now all face is the presence =
of skip conditions at 27 Mhz, the biggest oversight of the FCC.
The yobs that run huge amplifiers primarily for DX would have a little =
more difficulty and less incentive at 470 Mhz or some higher band but =
the truckers and other users would have a much better communications =
system over appropriate ranges that they need. There would probably be =
more channels available for them to enhance the ability to communicate.

The freebanders would take a few years longer to lose interest and die =
out but that needs to be worked on also because its an international =
problem. Here in Florida we are plagued with S. American freebanders at =
the bottom end of 10 mtrs. On trips to South America I was amazed  at =
the amount of amateur radio equipment on sale amongst CB radios in the =
duty free shops at airports. The salesmen drawing no distinction between =
the different types of equipment only the advantages of one over another =
i.e. bells and whistles.
 I heartily endorse any move to require the production of a valid =
transmitting license to the dealer in order to buy any radio that =
transmits more than a given power e.g. 1 watt or as appropriate. Sales =
should only be possible for the freqs authorized in the license or =
appropriate permit. Regradless of my Extra class license I personally =
should not be able to buy an aviation band radio (with transmit =
capability) without a  valid license for the aviation bands etc. `Same =
goes for marine equipment or amateur bands. Same could apply to =
amplifiers.
Would it work 100% - of course not but it would be a start. It would be =
better than the very immature ruling that the FCC made regarding banning =
the 10 mtr band on amateur amplifiers in case they were illegally used =
at 11 mtrs.The only people impacted were licensed amateurs.=20
I certainly do not believe that the manufacturers can be expected to =
protect their equipment against modification for out of band use. There =
are unscrupulous people with the smarts to modify most equipment to do =
something for which it was not designed. There should be rules to =
prevent companies from making equipment on the fringe of the law that =
was obviously designed for the illegal segment of the CB market. One =
very obvious example was Swan Radio who produced 100+watt transceivers =
ostensibly for ten mtrs but which were clearly meant for the CB =
market.Unfortunately, at the moment things are completely out of control =
as a perusal of some of the brazenly open web pages selling high power =
amps for both 11 mtrs and freebanding attests.=20
If only we could get the ARRL to use their influence to work with the =
FCC on this problem.
John AB4ET=20


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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Surely the answer to much, although not =
all of the=20
problems mentioned concerning the appalling noise on the 11 mtr band and =
its=20
repercussions to the adjacent band users is for all legal, law abiding =
radio=20
operators, both Amateur and CB to petition the FCC to fess up to their=20
incredibly poor decision to allocate the 11 mtr band for CB in the first =

place?</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Petition them&nbsp;for a reallocation =
of the CB=20
band to UHF. Give notice that in 5 years (or appropriate period) the =
citizens=20
band at 11 mtrs would become extinct and that all operations will move =
to&nbsp;a=20
specified UHF segment (already allocated for this purpose) and probably =
NBFM.=20
Stiff fines for use of the 11 mtr band for CB after a given date =
allowing for=20
equipment obsolescense.The manufacturers and support services would love =
it and=20
equipment would soon be forthcoming.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>CB would then become more like what it =
was intended=20
for, personal or business LOCAL communications.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>&nbsp;I believe the catalyst for the =
problems we=20
now all face is the presence of skip conditions at 27 Mhz, the biggest =
oversight=20
of the FCC.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>The yobs that run huge amplifiers =
primarily for DX=20
would have a little more difficulty and less incentive at 470 Mhz or =
some higher=20
band but the truckers and other users would have a much better =
communications=20
system over appropriate ranges that they need. There would probably be =
more=20
channels available for them to enhance the ability to =
communicate.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>The freebanders would take a few years =
longer to=20
lose interest and die out but that needs to be worked on =
also&nbsp;because its=20
an international problem. Here in Florida we are plagued with S. =
American=20
freebanders at the bottom end of 10 mtrs. On trips to South America I =
was=20
amazed</FONT><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>&nbsp; at the amount of amateur =
radio=20
equipment on sale amongst CB radios in the duty free shops at airports. =
The=20
salesmen drawing no distinction between the different types of equipment =
only=20
the advantages of one over another i.e. bells and whistles.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>&nbsp;I heartily endorse any move to =
require the=20
production of a valid transmitting license to the dealer in order to buy =
any=20
radio that transmits more than a given power e.g. 1 watt or as =
appropriate.=20
Sales should only be possible for the freqs authorized in the license or =

appropriate permit. Regradless of my Extra class license I personally =
should not=20
be able to buy an aviation band radio (with transmit capability) =
without&nbsp;a =20
valid license for the aviation bands etc. `Same goes for marine =
equipment or=20
amateur bands. Same could apply to amplifiers.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Would it work 100% - of course not but =
it would be=20
a start. It would be better than the very immature ruling that the FCC =
made=20
regarding&nbsp;banning the 10 mtr band on amateur amplifiers in case =
they were=20
illegally used at 11 mtrs.The only people impacted were licensed =
amateurs.=20
</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>I certainly do not believe that the =
manufacturers=20
can be expected to protect their equipment against modification for out =
of band=20
use. There are unscrupulous people with the smarts to modify&nbsp;most =
equipment=20
to do something for which it was not designed. There should be rules to =
prevent=20
companies from making equipment on the fringe of the law that was =
obviously=20
designed for the illegal segment of the CB market. One very obvious =
example was=20
Swan Radio who produced 100+watt transceivers ostensibly for ten mtrs =
but which=20
were clearly meant for the CB market.Unfortunately, at the moment things =
are=20
completely out of control as a perusal of some of the brazenly open web =
pages=20
selling high power amps for both 11 mtrs and freebanding attests. =
</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>If only we could get the ARRL to use =
their=20
influence to work with the FCC on this problem.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>John AB4ET&nbsp;</FONT></DIV>
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