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Subject: [AMPS] Suppressors
From: 2@vc.net (measures)
Date: Sun, 6 Aug 2000 11:12:05 -0700
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>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: measures <2@vc.net>
>To: Steve Thompson <rfamps@ic24.net>; AMPS <amps@contesting.com>
To: <amps@contesting.com>
>Date: 05 August 2000 13:48
>Subject: Re: [AMPS] Suppressors
>snip
>>>According to Wes' measurements, the suppressor contributes many 10s nH
>into
>>>the circuit.
>>>
>>The resistor has about 10nH.  L-supp is in parallel with it.   Total L
>>can not be more than 10nH.
>
>
>Where does the 50-100nH that Wes measured come from?
>
>snip
>
>>>That's not to say that the inductor value in the suppressor
>>>isn't important - you have to choose R and L values to give the ESR vs
>>>frequency characteristic that you need.
>>>
>>This is not the case.  To optimize the staggered resonances effect, one
>>needs  equal VHF current in Rsupp and Lsupp.
>>In other words --  An optimal suppressor divides the anode-resonance
>>ringing current between L-supp and R-supp.
>
>Why is it necessary to aim for this specific 'optimum' circumstance. 

Because the staggared-resonances are optimal when there are equal 
currents through R-supp and L-supp at the VHF anode-resonance freq. 


>There are two requirements - one is to insert enough resistance to kill any 
VHF
>resonance that might cause oscillation, 

  The resonance can not be killed.  It can only be damped with 
resistance. 

>the other is to insert sufficiently
>little resistance at the operating frequencies. Any given collection of
>components and layout will have its own particular optimum suppressor
>values, and sometimes nichrome will achieve this better than copper.
>
If one wants to reduce 10m dissipation in R-supp and lower VHF-Q roughly 
50%, nichrome  is a sound engineering choice.  .  

>The important point is the VHF Q of the whole anode circuit, and that is
>controlled by the ESR of the suppressor, not the Q of the suppressor.

?  On Wes' chart, please see  column Rp.  VHF amplification is 
proportional to the total Rp between the anode and the Tune-C.  At 
100MHz, Rp in the copper-wire suppressor, was 166-ohms.  In the 
resistance-wire suppressor, it was  101.7-ohms.  .  Similarly, VHF Q at 
100MHz was 2.2 for the  copper-wire suppressor and 1.5 for the 
resistance-wire suppressor.  The bottom-line is that  (VHF)  ESR, Q , and 
Rp are mathematically linked.  

cheers, Steve

-  Rich..., 805.386.3734, www.vcnet.com/measures.  
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