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[AMPS] YC156 whats the point

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Subject: [AMPS] YC156 whats the point
From: km1h@juno.com (km1h@juno.com)
Date: Tue, 2 Mar 1999 19:22:52 -0500


On Tue, 2 Mar 1999 09:19:36 -0800 Rich Measures <measures@vc.net> writes:
>>
>>
>>
>>On Wed, 24 Feb 1999 01:00:57 -0800 (PST) john merryman
>><andy_m_99@yahoo.com> writes:
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>Am i missing something about the YC156.
>>
>>Yes you are....
>>
>>>It has 5k plate dissipation,
>>>its rated for pulse use. 
>>
>>Not completely correct. The YC-156 is a selected version of the
>>3CPX5000A7. It is selected for high emission and excellent linearity 
>for
>>medical use. 
>>
>>
>>>What would be the realistic operating
>>>parameters in SSB,  to stay within the plate dissipation of 5K. You
>>>end up with a tube that is similar to a 3cx3000 output wise, with a
>>>very poor 3rd order imd figure. The data sheet does not mention any
>>>high linearity figures, is this urban myth?
>>
>>Use the 3CX15000B7 for curves since the YC156 uses those internals.
>>
>>
>>>I think the 8171 in class A would be more linear and have a better 
>IMD 
>figure. 
>>
>>Arguable.  The YC-156 has so much extra reserve emission even when 
>run at
>>the 5KW dissipation level. 
>>Third order IMD in the > -45dB range are reported in ham SSB service.
>
>?  Sounds reasonable.  Which ham transceiver has <45db 3rd order IMD?
>>
>>
>>
>>>The 8171 would also have more grunt. 
>>
>>For CBers and CB style hams.
>>
>?  _______
>
>>>But i might be missing the point of this tube. Please explain why 
>this tube 
>would be 
>>>favoured?
>>
>>Cheap, available, no socket required, reasonable filament 
>requirements.
>>Can run legal limit RTTY at modest Ep. For a  low investment it can 
>be
>>the basis of an amp that will last darn near a lifetime.
>>
>?  One of the flies in the ointment is that the substantial amount of 
>C-out does not facilitate reduced anode-current operation on 10m. 

The ways around that have been covered several times.

 .  
>In 
>other words, in other words one needs several hundred watts of drive 
>to 
>make it come alive. 

Wrong!




 .  Another fly is the lengthy preheat time

Subjective and depends upon individual needs. Only twice as long as the
8877.

73  Carl  KM1H



>
>-  cheers, Carl.  
>
>
>Rich...
>
>R. L. Measures, 805-386-3734, AG6K, www.vcnet.com/measures  
>
>

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