just another sign of where this once great country
is headed!!
----- Original Message -----
From: "Dr. Howard S. White" <drpaper@kleega.com>
To: <pfkski@vail.net>; "'Anthony W. DePrato'" <wa4jqs@mikrotec.com>; "'Bill
Coleman'" <aa4lr@arrl.net>; "'Dave W7DPW'" <w7dpw@comcast.net>
Cc: "'writelog'" <writelog@contesting.com>
Sent: Monday, November 14, 2005 5:48 PM
Subject: [WriteLog] Antennas and CC&R's
> I can attest first hand to the different attitudes of people to property
> rights in different countries.
>
> When I lived in Canada, I put up towers on two houses. Building permits
> were very simple proforma documents and easy to get. The first house was
> 15' 9" wide and 30' high - a typical row house. I had a 70' tower on the
> roof with a TH6DXX on it that had a 24' turning radius.. needless to say
it
> totally covered both house that were attached to mine.
>
> The second house was on a 50' wide lot in a very exclusive
neighborhood..It
> had a 100' guyed tower sporting a huge menagerie of beams, quads and
> verticals... the largest of which had a turning radius of 55'. In neither
> case did any neighbor ever complain or even comment on the towers or
> antennas... except to say glad they were here in case of an emergency.
> People clearly felt that you had a right to use your own property however
> you wanted to.
>
> I now live in the USA in La Jolla CA which is equivalent to my old
> neighborhood in Canada. I put up a MonstIR Antenna with a 40' turning
> radius on a 85' Crank Up tower which normally nests at 25'. My lot is
1/2
> acre - 150' x 150' and heavily treed so the MonstIR is invisible to almost
> every house on the street when nested. It took me over a year and many
many
> $ to get a building permit. Ironically we are on a Mt Soledad which
> sprouts 94 commercial towers which are fully visible to all houses on our
> street. So relative to my old houses and to that vast array of
commercial
> antennas around here, my antenna is much less obtrusive.
>
> As soon went up, the neighbors began screaming. They have posted signs all
> around that say..."It's our neighborhood too antennabegone@yahoo.com "
> Everyone seems to be of the opinion that they have the right to tell me
what
> I can do on my property. They have claimed that I don't need the antennas
> or that I could use smaller antennas....or a lighter weight tower...or
that
> I should not work DX.
>
> One neighbor was rather upset with me when I helped out during Katrina on
> the 40 M SATERN Net. She claimed my building permit only permitted me to
> work local emergencies and I should not help people outside of La Jolla.
> She could not comprehend that people outside of La Jolla might be called
on
> someday to help us..
>
> For the "Land of the Free" it seems that the freedom does not extend to
> individual property rights.
>
> I suggest you support the HR 3876 Bill to protect us from CC&R's
>
> http://www.arrl.org/govrelations/hr3876/
>
> __________________________________________________________
> Howard S. White Ph.D. P. Eng., VE3GFW/K6 ex-AE6SM KY6LA
> Website: www.ky6la.com
> "No Good Deed Goes Unpunished"
> "Ham Antennas Save Lives - Katrina, 2003 San Diego Fires, 911"
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Phil Krichbaum" <pfkski@vail.net>
> To: "'Anthony W. DePrato'" <wa4jqs@mikrotec.com>; "'Bill Coleman'"
> <aa4lr@arrl.net>; "'Dave W7DPW'" <w7dpw@comcast.net>
> Cc: "'writelog'" <writelog@contesting.com>; "'rtty'" <rtty@contesting.com>
> Sent: Sunday, November 13, 2005 6:46 AM
> Subject: Re: [WriteLog] [RTTY] RTTY In CW Bands ?
>
>
> > A few years ago a relative was asking me about what it took too get a
> > license as he had a mild interest. I told him about the VEs and question
> > pool etc. He asked if the exam pool questions delt with how to actually
> get
> > on the air and operate. I had to admit that it didn't but certainly
> should.
> > In recent years I've noticed that when listening to field day SSB ops
that
> > there is lots of CB lingo and generally clueless ops. In my opinion
there
> is
> > a group of poor ops that have been tought by poor ops so we are at least
> in
> > the 2nd generation of this. Unfortunately due to CC&Rs many US hams are
> > unable to put up meaningful antennas to get on HF and FD is the only
time
> of
> > the year they operate HF.
> > I've traveled a bit and when talking to hams in other countries I find
> that
> > CC&Rs and similar things are pretty much strickly a US deal. Most people
> in
> > other countries feel that what ever you do on your property is your
> business
> > and you can pretty much do as you please. I visited a ham in The
> Netherlands
> > and he lived in a typical Dutch row house and his lot was about 25 ft
> wide.
> > He had a tower in the back yard that had been approved by the
authorities.
> > Never were his neighbors asked if they had any comments or objections.
It
> > was approved even though his HF beam antenna overhangs the neighbors
> > property on each side and a city park on the back. Ham HF activity (cw
> too)
> > is alive and well in other parts of the world. In last November's CQWW
CW
> > contest there was a record number of logs submittted (4040) with
> conditions
> > well off the cycle peak.
> > 73 Phil N0KE
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: writelog-bounces@contesting.com
> > [mailto:writelog-bounces@contesting.com]On Behalf Of Anthony W. DePrato
> > Sent: Saturday, November 12, 2005 9:58 AM
> > To: Bill Coleman; Dave W7DPW
> > Cc: writelog; rtty
> > Subject: Re: [WriteLog] [RTTY] RTTY In CW Bands ?
> >
> >
> > Well we can put a lot of the blame on ourselves. being a ve for over 20
> yrs
> > and having taught over 100 ham class's it came to me one day that I was
> > teaching everything but our SOP's the last 30 some class's i had here in
> > south central KY. i spent the last day talking about how to operate and
> > what pro signs to use and telling them that we did not use good buddy ,
> > whats ur 20 , and most of all the personnel here is !
> > they all seems very glad to know this and realized that they would not
> > stand out as an ex cber on the ham bands..btw i taught theory NOT the
> > questions that most do today.
> > 73 Tony WA4JQS
> >
> > p.s. i spent 2 days on band plans and gentleman's agreements also.
> >
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