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Re: [VHFcontesting] Working K5QE in the CQ WW VHF contest.....

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Subject: Re: [VHFcontesting] Working K5QE in the CQ WW VHF contest.....
From: Pete K0BAK via VHFcontesting <vhfcontesting@contesting.com>
Reply-to: Pete K0BAK <rxr978-vhf@yahoo.com>
Date: Sun, 17 Jul 2022 00:27:07 +0000 (UTC)
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 For terrestrial modes, there's no conflict between"Stations in the contest 
will not be able to post if they are making contacts via CW / SSB or FT8." and 
"All stations are allowed to use QSO Alerting Assistance." 
because:You can read and use spots and other info, but you can't write (post, 
type a chat, etc.) info that assists others to contact you. A prohibition 
against what most contests call "self-spotting", while still allowing passive 
assistance.
CQ WW VHF rules could use some editing (most contests' rules should be written 
more clearly), but the intent in this instance is clear IMHO.
-- Pete K0BAK, barely active VHFer so don't take advice from me

    On Saturday, July 16, 2022 at 11:36:50 AM EDT, Walter E Miller 
<aj6t@comcast.net> wrote:  
 
 Marshall,

I don't think your interpretation of the CQ VHF Contest rules related to 
what CQ terms "QSO Alerting Assistance" is correct.  In particular, your 
claim that "Stations in the contest will not be able to post if they are 
making contacts via CW / SSB or FT8" is not supported by the CQ writeup 
at http://www.cqww-vhf.com/

I think the CQ rules are poorly written and confusing.  However, Rule 
IV-1 states "All stations are allowed to use QSO Alerting Assistance."  
There is no exclusion by mode in that rule.

Rule IV-3 indicates that website posts may not provide "information 
beyond that of callsign, frequency, and sequence."  Evidently, by 
exclusion, the meat of these contest rules is that you are not allowed 
to post your grid square (multiplier).  Rule IV-4 provides an exception 
to that for rovers only.

I'm surprised that nobody from CQ Magazine has stepped forward to 
provide any clarification.  In any event, it will be interesting to see 
what the threatened "adjudication process" after the contest uncovers.

73, Walt, AJ6T EM66

On 7/15/2022 10:57 AM, Marshall-K5QE wrote:
>
> Stations attempting digital meteor scatter or digital EME contacts are 
> allowed to post Call, Frequency, Mode, and Sequence ONLY to the 
> various reflectors.  THESE ARE THE CQ RULES.  This means that a 
> station calling CQ on 6M MSK144 in the contest will be able to post 
> something like "50.260MHz....CQ CQ CQ de K5QE First Sequence MSK144" 
> to the PingJockey reflector.  That is what I usually post anyway.  
> Stations in the contest will not be able to post if they are making 
> contacts via CW / SSB or FT8.
>
> Full information at http://www.cqww-vhf.com/. ; Please check out these 
> new rules.
>
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