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Subject: [TowerTalk] Fwd: Re: Need a Knot Expert
From: Gedas <w8bya@mchsi.com>
Date: Thu, 28 Nov 2019 14:43:50 -0500
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Hi Steve and happy thanksgiving to you and yours as well. You got everything spot on but (possibly) missed one very important requirement. I think you knew it but did not mention it. I wanted to join two lines together but ALSO end up with a fixed loop, ideally in the middle of the knot.

I have no idea if such a knot exists but I have been given enough awesome ideas and help that I will end up using two Bowlines put together and just run a temporary chain link thru one of the loops (or both of the loops) and call it a day.

If you will forgive my 1st grade artistic work of my image at the URL below this is what I had originally hoped was available, or at least something similar to it before all the ideas poured in. TU everyone agn very much. 73

https://drive.google.com/open?id=11h4ZqMJyi0lWXKk6Oqlb7A7jmNNbEIqD

Gedas, W8BYA

Gallery athttp://w8bya.com
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This is why some people appear bright until you hear them speak.

On 11/28/2019 1:01 PM, k7lxc--- via TowerTalk wrote:
Howdy, TowerTalkians -

     Happy Thanksgiving to those who celebrate it and warm good wishes to 
everyone else!
     I've been following this thread with some interest. In my book UP THE 
TOWER - The Complete Guide To Tower Construction (available from championradio.com), I 
have a whole chapter on knots and rope management.

     I've worked on over 260 ham installations where most times the owner was 
the ground person. I can count on one hand how many of them knew any knots at all. In my 
book I say that if you are trapped on a desert island and can only take one knot with you 
- it'd be the bowline. A lot of my ropes and knots experience came thru my days of 
mountain climbing. It was there where it was suggested that you practice the bowline in a 
cold shower in the dark since it may come down to that.

     The original post wanted to tie 2 ropes together where of course I'd have 
suggested 2 bowlines. Other suggestions like a square knot with half hitches on each end 
works great as well. (BTW I always triple knot half hitches for guaranteed safety.) 
Suggestions for more sophisticated knots were good but really outside the scope of your 
typical amateur.
     I also endorse the figure 8 which is indeed easy to tie and untie but for 
my tower experience it is too big to be at the end of your haul line where an inch one 
way or another is the difference between an easy successful job and needing that extra 
inch for a lift and not having it.

     In my tower work I also use the clove hitch and the trucker's hitch. 
They're both easy and wonderful when you need them.

     I don't think this is a new topic (a rare occurrence!) but doesn't come up 
often so I hope everyone got something out of this thread.

Cheers,Steve     K7LXCTOWER TECH -Professional tower services for amateursCell: 
206-890-4188
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