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Re: [TowerTalk] Ham Antenna Rotator: The Teardown

To: Grant Saviers <grants2@pacbell.net>
Subject: Re: [TowerTalk] Ham Antenna Rotator: The Teardown
From: Charles Gallo <charlie@thegallos.com>
Date: Mon, 3 Dec 2018 22:40:43 -0500
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The short answer to why they get fretting is because ball bearings are not 
really the best answer for intermittent rotary motion, with vibrational 
loading. It was why a lot of applications stuck with sintered bronze, and today 
use plastic. I STILL say that this bearing, along with the thrust bearing are 
the perfect spot for an injection molded engineering plastic bearing

--  
73 de KG2V
Charlie

> On Dec 3, 2018, at 9:44 PM, Grant Saviers <grants2@pacbell.net> wrote:
> 
> The real HyGain (pre MFJ) would supply a high end grease, about an oz for 
> $15, with anti-fretting properties.  I found it commercially but only in 
> commercial quantity packaging and it was quite expensive.
> 
> I use Superlube 21030 with TFE full synthetic, a tube costs less the $10.  
> Full synthetic won't dry out or separate like white lithium or other mineral 
> oil plus carrier greases.  A widely available, cheap, and excellent grease 
> with a much wider temperature range than mineral oil greases.  Not overkill.
> 
> If you want the gory details why rotator races get divits
> https://www.machinerylubrication.com/Read/693/fretting-wear
> 
> Grant KZ1W
> 
>> On 12/3/2018 16:06 PM, Bob K6UJ wrote:
>>  Norm's Rotator Service on line says:   "either a white lithium or green 
>> emerald.  Under no circumstances should wheel bearing grease or any other 
>> grease with fibrous material content be used".
>> As they said, wheel bearing grease is a fibrous grease and should not be 
>> used.  There is a large selection of greases that are non fibrous.    There 
>> are many (non fibrous) grease lubricants better than Lithium which are rated 
>> for more severe service and lower temperatures than the Lithium.  I am 
>> planning on using a synthetic grease in my rebuild.  It  will be an overkill 
>> for California but I will sleep well at night.  hihi
>> BobK6UJ
>>     On Monday, December 3, 2018, 3:12:40 PM PST, Rod Greene via TowerTalk 
>> <towertalk@contesting.com> wrote:
>>     Years ago I remember reading to not use grease on the ball bearings as 
>> it just attracts dust and dirt. And, that the design from the factory did 
>> not call for grease. Is this correct or should one use a grease on the ball 
>> bearings? 73, Rod/w7zrc
>>     On Monday, December 3, 2018, 8:35:44 AM MST, Edward Mccann via TowerTalk 
>> <towertalk@contesting.com> wrote:
>>    Interesting article recently noted
>> https://www.electronicdesign.com/analog/ham-antenna-rotator-teardown
>> Ed McCann
>> AG6CX
>> Sent from my iPhone
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