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[TenTec] Orion II 2.033 AM Transmit Output

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Subject: [TenTec] Orion II 2.033 AM Transmit Output
From: John Buck <kh7t@arrl.net>
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Date: Mon, 01 May 2006 12:50:27 -1000
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Put me in the I love my Orion camp because it has the best receiver I can get.

I never thought I would get sucked into the AM discussion. But I hooked up the dummy load, 2 different power meters in series on my Orion (original) with 2.056 software.
AM mode.  My data is not the same as Grant showed (quoted below my data).

My meters are not accurately calibrated per a standard but are in the ballpark perhaps as much as 20 % low. Carrier power AM mode, 99W output setting, no modulation. Auto Tuner disabled.

My data shows there is up to about a 4 second convergence time for the power to slew to the proper level after a band change. The fall time constant of my analog meter is less than 1 second. There is a problem (see *** below) as the power can be way too high for a significant time on the initial ptt after a band change. This behavior might be hard on some amplifiers.


KH7T data
Meter 1 is LDG DWM4 digital,  Meter 2 is analog.
Band   Meter 1   Meter 2
160M   15W      20W  *** note below.  Do not trust meter 1 on 160.
75M     19W      20W  ***
40M     20W      18W  ***
20M     19W      19W  ***
15M 18W 16W * 10M 19W 17W *

*** If the 160 meter test is done after the 10 meter test, the Reading starts at 61 watts and moves gradually down to the value shown above in about 4 seconds. If the 80 meter test follows the 10 meter test the initial value is 80 watts. This is not just an instantaneous millisecond pulse. Similar results 10 or 15 meters to 40 or 20 meters. I can avoid the excessive power startup if I tune the auto tuner after band change. I would not want do that if I had resonant antennas (or no auto tuner).


* There is a 4 second rise from 7 watts on the first Ptt after band change moving up the bands from 160 to 10.

Aloha,
John KH7T


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Subject:
[TenTec] Orion II 2.033 AM Transmit Output
From:
"Grant Youngman" <nq5t@comcast.net>
Date:
Mon, 1 May 2006 09:18:27 -0500
To:
"'Discussion of Ten-Tec Equipment'" <tentec@contesting.com>

To:
"'Discussion of Ten-Tec Equipment'" <tentec@contesting.com>


I rechecked the carrier level output on several bands this morning on AM.

It should automatically set to approximately 25 watts (or about 1/4 of the
power at full output).  This is what it is doing:

160M            30+ W (too high to achieve 100% modulation)
80M             10 W
40M             5 W
20M             2-3 W
15,10M  2 W

Some have reported output as high as 50 watts -- maybe that is a reference
to peak output with modulation?  The carrier output level on 160M is too
high to be able to achieve 100% modulation given the output capability of
the Orion II.

Grant/NQ5T



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