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Re: [RTTY] FT4JA performance

To: "'Joe Subich, W4TV'" <lists@subich.com>, <rtty@contesting.com>
Subject: Re: [RTTY] FT4JA performance
From: "John Barber" <john@bordertech.co.uk>
Date: Mon, 11 Apr 2016 16:22:32 +0100
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Right on the nail. 

The last multi-mode trip I went on ended up with 35K QSOs, 7K on RTTY. That was 
with just one RTTY op for much of the time and without any priority on the best 
bands. Peak rates were over 100 per hour for long periods. These big operations 
with 4 or more stations running should keep 1 station on RTTY all the time, not 
just work a few hours in the last few days. 

VK0EK did not use the leaderboard but it was easy to see what was happening in 
those last days. I checked a list of stations as they were worked, at a time 
when there were 4 CW stations active and nothing else. Out of 20 callsigns, 19 
of them already had more than 10 bandslots. There must be a way to let more of 
the smaller stations get just 1 contact for an ATNO.

John GW4SKA



-----Original Message-----
From: RTTY [mailto:rtty-bounces@contesting.com] On Behalf Of Joe Subich, W4TV
Sent: 11 April 2016 13:39
To: rtty@contesting.com
Subject: Re: [RTTY] FT4JA performance


By settling for 10% we sell digital DXing short.  I agree that RTTY will 
probably never reach 33% as there will be very little time and resources given 
to RTTY on the low bands.  However, those chasing a DXpedition for ATNO or band 
credit should not care which mode they work.

A well run DXpedition, with quality RTTY operators, good antennas and decent 
propagation should be able to generate peak rates of 2 - 3 QSOs per minute, 
similar to what they can do on other modes.  Getting 20 to 25% RTTY QSOs is 
only a matter or *expectations* - making DXpedition planners treat RTTY as an 
integral part of the operation and not as an afterthought as it is in nearly 
every case and making those who chase DXCC Challenge/Toplist realize they may 
need to use multiple modes.

The real problem is the "Leaderboard" ... DXpeditions spend too much time and 
resources on Phone/CW on the "middle" bands (20/17/15) and not enough resources 
on balancing opportunities for RTTY (and in some cases low band QSOs).  The 
goal of any DXPedition should be to allow everyone who desires, one QSO per 
mode and one QSO per band (between
9 and 11 QSOs *maximum*) ... not 20 to 25 "band/mode" slots as we see in many 
cases with some of the DX Hogs.

73,

    ... Joe, W4TV


On 4/11/2016 8:04 AM, EA2RY wrote:
> Hello to all.
>
> If a survey on the preferred mode (CW, SSB, RTTY) can even select multiple 
> options, you never reach that 25%.
>
> 10% is a minimum acceptable percentage.
>
> often by own experience, reach those percentages can be tricky, especially if 
> it is a ATNO for most amateur radio community.
>
> As a radio amateur who has a preference for the RTTY I wish that these 
> percentages are higher, but I understand there most preferably CW and SSB.
>
> (Sorry for my Google translación english) ;-)
>
>       73's de Roberto
> http://www.ea2ry.com
>          ¯_(ツ)_/¯
>
>> El 11 abr 2016, a las 13:46, Joe Subich, W4TV <lists@subich.com> escribió:
>>
>>
>>> 10010 RTTY QSOs that is10% of the 100K  Juan de Nova contacts.
>>
>> That's still a long way short of 20 to 25% of contacts that would 
>> represent a "fair" allocation of resources.
>>
>>
>> 73,
>>
>>   ... Joe, W4TV
>>
>>
>>> On 4/11/2016 4:48 AM, Jacques Frilley wrote:
>>> Any RTTY fan operator should vote for FT4JA as the DXpedition of the Year : 
>>> 10010 RTTY QSOs that is10% of the 100K  Juan de Nova contacts.
>>> 73 to all
>>> F2LZ
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