John,
We have spoken with them on many occasions.
Actually, it was a VP of Intel that DID NOT BELIEVE me when I told him that
people were using 802.11 outdoors. This conversation took place last
December at 802.11 Planet. He asked what Karlnet did, and when I told him,
his exact quote was "you mean people are using 802.11 outdoors?"
Kinda scary that they are "leading" the wireless investments lately.
Kevin
-----Original Message-----
From: karlnet-bounces@WISPNotes.com
[mailto:karlnet-bounces@WISPNotes.com]On Behalf Of John Scrivner
Sent: Tuesday, July 22, 2003 11:09 AM
To: Karlnet Mailing List
Subject: Re: [Karlnet] The 5 GHz product
Why don't you guys call Intel and let them pay you to design the perfect
hardware? They want software based radios. You guys do radio software.
What could be better?
Scriv
Kevin Knuth wrote:
>
> Norm,
>
> The problem with 900Mhz is that there are no radios available. Remember-
> KarlNet does not make radios! We use "off the shelf" radios and enhance
> their performance.
>
> However, Teletronics has a 2.4Ghz to 900Mhz converter. If we could get
the
> price down, that might work out.
>
> Kevin
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: karlnet-bounces@WISPNotes.com
> [mailto:karlnet-bounces@WISPNotes.com]On Behalf Of Norm Young
> Sent: Monday, July 21, 2003 11:01 PM
> To: Karlnet Mailing List
> Subject: Re: [Karlnet] The 5 GHz product
>
> Thanks...I think I'll do just that. I'll probably upgrade an existing
> AP-1000 running base (one interface PtP backhaul, the other PtMP) to
> flashrom (two interfaces running PtMP and one PtP backhaul), and later
> upgrade the PtP interface from 2.4GHz to ~5GHz, to accommodate more
> throughput. I could also see a use for yet another flashrom to run a 5GHz
> PtMP AP,at the same WIPOP , to offer a business-grade/power-user service
> level going forward. Any chance we could see a 900MHz radio version in
the
> future for those hard-to-reach places?
>
> Norm
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Kevin Knuth" <kknuth@karlnet.com>
> To: "Norm Young" <npyoung@applegatebroadband.net>; "Karlnet Mailing List"
> <karlnet@WISPNotes.com>
> Sent: Monday, July 21, 2003 8:50 PM
> Subject: RE: [Karlnet] The 5 GHz product
>
> > Most likely.
> >
> > Unless there is some bizarre conflict with the motherboard and the
radio,
> > which I would think unlikely.
> >
> > Kevin
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: karlnet-bounces@WISPNotes.com
> > [mailto:karlnet-bounces@WISPNotes.com]On Behalf Of Norm Young
> > Sent: Monday, July 21, 2003 10:48 PM
> > To: Karlnet Mailing List
> > Subject: Re: [Karlnet] The 5 GHz product
> >
> >
> > So, would there be a good chance that the purchase of a flashrom base
now,
> > could be upgraded to a version that supports the Atheros chip set later?
> >
> > Norm
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Kevin Knuth" <kknuth@karlnet.com>
> > To: "Norm Young" <npyoung@applegatebroadband.net>; "Karlnet Mailing
List"
> > <karlnet@WISPNotes.com>
> > Sent: Monday, July 21, 2003 8:34 PM
> > Subject: RE: [Karlnet] The 5 GHz product
> >
> >
> > > Norm,
> > >
> > > At some point we think that is the case- but we have not tested that
> yet!
> > >
> > > The limit will be a total of 3 wireless interfaces, with the last
> > interface
> > > reserved for the Ethernet with EPROM on it.
> > >
> > > The initial product will probably be a 2 port FlashROM with a single
> radio
> > > card (and the second port is for the Ethernet!) This just gets us
> quicker
> > > time to market.
> > >
> > > Other variations will follow.
> > >
> > > Kevin
> > >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: karlnet-bounces@WISPNotes.com
> > > [mailto:karlnet-bounces@WISPNotes.com]On Behalf Of Norm Young
> > > Sent: Monday, July 21, 2003 8:32 PM
> > > To: Karlnet Mailing List
> > > Subject: Re: [Karlnet] The 5 GHz product
> > >
> > >
> > > Kevin,
> > >
> > > Does this mean that with a flashrom MB and say, three interfaces, we
> could
> > > incorporate a ~5 GHz backhaul, and say, two (or three?) 2.4GHz PtMP
> > > interfaces?
> > >
> > > Thanks,
> > >
> > > Norm
> > >
> > >
> > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > From: "Kevin Knuth" <kknuth@karlnet.com>
> > > To: "Karlnet Mailing List" <karlnet@WISPNotes.com>
> > > Sent: Monday, July 21, 2003 1:04 PM
> > > Subject: RE: [Karlnet] The 5 GHz product
> > >
> > >
> > > > This straight from engineering:
> > > >
> > > > The Atheros chip set supports "Extended 802.11a tuning range:
4.900 -
> > > > 5.850 GHz" (from their web sight). We don't make the radios, but
> > > > Atheros has said that they support this range. Doug Karl agrees.
> > > >
> > > > So that should do it! We should be in BETA with 5Ghz in the next
few
> > > weeks,
> > > > and if tests go well we can pick an antenna and certify it!
> Preliminary
> > > > tests- MEANING IN OUR OFFICE WITH NO LOSS AND NO TREES, etc, - we
did
> > > better
> > > > than 27Mbps.
> > > >
> > > > Kevin
> > > >
> > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > From: karlnet-bounces@WISPNotes.com
> > > > [mailto:karlnet-bounces@WISPNotes.com]On Behalf Of Thomas Giger TGC
> > > > Sent: Monday, July 21, 2003 10:32 AM
> > > > To: 'Karlnet Mailing List'
> > > > Subject: [Karlnet] The 5 GHz product
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Kevin, here we go again :)
> > > >
> > > > > However, our initial offering
> > > > > of a 5Ghz product will be based on the FlashROM.
> > > > ----^^^^^^^
> > > >
> > > > This is always very interesting b/c everybody needs more channels
and
> > less
> > > > interference.
> > > >
> > > > The FCC has recently announced plans to open the 5.475 - 5.725 GHz
> > > spectrum
> > > > for outdoor WLANs with 30 dBm (- 6db TPC) and automatic frequency
> > > selection
> > > > - just the same as in ETSI regulated countries.
> > > >
> > > > I'm afraid you're 5 GHz product will not be for this range but 5.2
or
> > 5.8
> > > > GHz instead.
> > > >
> > > > Nevertheless, please let us know more about the spectrum (range,
> number
> > of
> > > > channels, etc.).
> > > >
> > > > Kind regards,
> > > > --
> > > > true global communications GmbH
> > > > Thomas Giger
> > > > In der Au 27, 61440 Oberursel, Germany.
> > > > fon +49.6171.63810 fax +49.6171.638119
> > > > X-NCC-RegID: de.tgc
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > > From: Kevin Knuth [mailto:kknuth@karlnet.com]
> > > > > Sent: Monday, July 21, 2003 4:57 PM
> > > > > To: Karlnet Mailing List
> > > > > Subject: RE: [Karlnet] Need a FlashROM base
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > Currently KarlNet does not ship FlashROM units as complete
> > > > > systems, only the
> > > > > FlashROM modules for you to build your own. However, our
> > > > > initial offering
> > > > > of a 5Ghz product will be based on the FlashROM.
> > > > >
> > > > > Kevin
> > > > >
> > > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > > From: karlnet-bounces@WISPNotes.com
> > > > > [mailto:karlnet-bounces@WISPNotes.com]On Behalf Of Steve Deaton
> > > > > Sent: Monday, July 21, 2003 9:03 AM
> > > > > To: travis@netwaveinternet.com; 'Karlnet Mailing List'
> > > > > Subject: RE: [Karlnet] Need a FlashROM base
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > >From what I understand Karlnet does not certify any FlashROM
> > > > > units for
> > > > > several reasons. One is because they do not manufacture
> > > > > them. Another
> > > > > reason is that they do not want to support them. We manufacture
> > > > > FlashROM units and will warranty them against hardware
> > > > > defects. I could
> > > > > have three units shipped out very soon. If you are interested in
> > > > > pricing please let me know. Thank you.
> > > > >
> > > > > Steve Deaton
> > > > > IT Director
> > > > > Texas Broadband, Inc.
> > > > > (888)868.3835 ext 85 (office)
> > > > > 979.289.0148 (office)
> > > > > 979.289.5117 (fax)
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > > From: karlnet-bounces@WISPNotes.com
> > > > > [mailto:karlnet-bounces@WISPNotes.com] On Behalf Of
> > > > > travis-lists@netwaveinternet.com
> > > > > Sent: Friday, July 18, 2003 2:08 PM
> > > > > To: karlnet@WISPNotes.com
> > > > > Subject: [Karlnet] Need a FlashROM base
> > > > >
> > > > > I need three pre-built, "Karlnet certified" FlashROM bases with
> three
> > > > > wireless interfaces each, preferably built on ~1 GHz boards.
> > > > >
> > > > > Anyone sell them that can give me a price off-list? I need them
> soon.
> > > > >
> > > > > Thanks!
> > > > >
> > > > > Travis
> > > > > --
> > > > > ================================
> > > > > M. Travis Brown, MCSE
> > > > > Network Systems Engineer
> > > > > NetWave Internet
> > > > > 434.386.0656
> > > > > travis@netwaveinternet.com
> > > > > ================================
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