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Re: [CQ-Contest] All the Assisted ops, where do they all come from?

To: Mike Ritz <w7vo@comcast.net>
Subject: Re: [CQ-Contest] All the Assisted ops, where do they all come from?
From: Raymond Benny <rayn6vr@gmail.com>
Date: Sat, 21 May 2016 23:51:40 -0700
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Let's get real guys,

The single op unassisted category says that no external means (internet, RF
or whatever) can be used to assist in making a QSO. Just because someone
else spots you has nothing to do with you being assisted.

Consider if a lonely Samoan native ham, running a simple rig into a small
dipole wants to make some contacts in a DX contest. Since he is rare DX,
and even if he didn't call CQ, he would get spotted in a flash. Would you
really then consider him assisted? .

The thought that since he made some QSOs by others calling him, since he
was spotted, is a long stretch saying that he is now in the assisted
category...

My 2 cents.

Ray,
N6VR

On Sat, May 21, 2016 at 6:44 AM, Mike Ritz <w7vo@comcast.net> wrote:

> You bring up a great point, Ken! I had never thought of it that way, and
> you are right. The only way an unassisted station can say he is truly
> unassisted is to not be spotted by another operator, or by a robot. I guess
> one needs to clarify the rules that unassisted stations cannot run, they
> must stick with strictly S&P. Makes sense to me!
>
> 73;
> Mike
> W7VO
>
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
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> From: "Ktfrog007--- via CQ-Contest" <cq-contest@contesting.com>
> To: cq-contest@contesting.com
> Sent: Wednesday, May 18, 2016 1:24:26 PM
> Subject: [CQ-Contest] All the Assisted ops, where do they all come from?
>
>
>
>
> The common definition of Assistance refers to single operators who use
> cluster spots, run their own skimmers or get some kind of outside help to
> find
> stations. On CW and RTTY the spots are now gathered by skimmer robots
> which efficiently skim up almost everything. On phone they are generated
> manually by humans so there are fewer spots, but all the big running
> stations
> and other significant stations get spotted.
>
> This Assistance is just one side of the coin, however. The other side is
> the running stations who get spotted. They count on being spotted to
> generate those huge runs and scores and if they claim to be Unassisted
> they are
> not being honest. These operators are also Assisted.
>
> The only truly Unassisted stations are those single operators doing only
> traditional S&P. These are often small operations and certainly do not
> include the big, famous winning stations that dominate the competitions.
>
> Given these definitions, the majority of single operator stations are
> Assisted which is why the two categories are converging, like it or not,
> and
> why Unassisted should be eliminated
>
> 73,
> Ken, AB1J
>
>
>
>
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