Hei Ron and others on the cq-contest,
2015-05-26 0:55 GMT+03:00 Ron Notarius W3WN
> Jukka,
>
> I agree with you that in principle, recording some or all of one's contest
> operating, and then reviewing it later, may be of benefit to some, even
> many, contesters.
>
> That said, there is a difference between recommending recording, and
> insisting on it.
>
> If you want me, as a competitor, to record my operating, then make it
> mandatory, write it into the rules, and tell me how it needs to be
> recorded, and how long I'd be required to keep it.
>
I suggest those competitors who want to improve their skills to record some
of the contests. It is a great tool to learn how to operate.
About wanting people to record the contests .. well, I just suggest people
to think about recording their own operating. To me, recordings have
provided a lot.
> And then I will decide whether or not the new rule is onerous enough to
> keep me from participating in the contest.
>
I am saying recording and then reviewing own operating is a good way to
improve many contesting skills, not only call copying capability.
I simply dislike, in principle, a rule that implied something that was not
> explicitly required, and threatened penalties for not having something (the
> recording) that no where else am I explicitly required to have it. This
> can cause many more problems that it could possibly cure.
> And shouldn't the goal of anyone rewriting or updating the rules be to
> make them as clear and concise as possible, to avoid the "gray areas" and
> loopholes?
>
>
Yes. I am sure that is the goal of all contest rule writers.
> 73, ron w3wn
>
73,
Jukka OH6LI
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: CQ-Contest [mailto:cq-contest-bounces@contesting.com] On Behalf Of
> Jukka Klemola
> Sent: Monday, May 25, 2015 3:01 PM
> To: GMAIL IK1HJS
> Cc: cq-contest
> Subject: Re: [CQ-Contest] Credit where credit is due
>
> About recordings:
> I have found the recordings invaluable when improving my operator skills.
>
> There is no other tool that I can compare, that would have provided to my
> copying skills to achieve a constant performance level of less than 1% of
> call copying errors per contest I enter.
>
> The method is to learn from contacts I have to ask for repeats and when I
> get the log checking report, I review (re-listen) some QSOs I have been
> getting notifications.
>
>
> I suggest people to learn better operating.
> Recording the contest or some part of the contest and then learning later
> on, after the log submission.
>
> And - anyone of You participants, may get an opportunity to provide
> something extra to log checking.
> That extra could be a recording if You happen to have one and are asked for
> a recording.
>
> I strongly suggest and hope many will record the next contests they enter
> and then learn from the recording.
>
>
> 73,
> Jukka OH6LI.
>
>
> 2015-05-25 19:54 GMT+03:00 GMAIL IK1HJS <ik1hjs@gmail.com>:
>
> > I agree with Hans K0HB. Huge work by CC.
> >
> > In the past recordings were not accepted by CC when sent to justify the
> > entrant behavior.
> > I think that now it should be accepted.
> > I think that recording would have helped (just helped, not resolved) to
> > avoid invented qsos', and I would have kept that rule for Top scores.
> > 73 de Carlo IK1HJS
> >
> > Il 25/05/2015 18:04, Radio K0HB ha scritto:
> >
> >> An uncommon event ---
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> A major contest sponsor published proposed rule changes, invited
> comment
> >> from everyone, and participated in the "spirited" discussion with
> reasoned
> >> and informative input.
> >>
> >> Then that sponsor adjusted/modified/retracted/polished the proposal and
> >> offered a new draft as a result of the feedback.
> >> Not everyone who commented had their view adopted, but our positions
> were
> >> heard and considered.
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> That is huge!
> >>
> >> Thanks, Randy, and the entire committee.
> >>
> >> —
> >>
> >>
> >> 73, Hans, K0HB
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