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Re: [CQ-Contest] The Insanity of Cut Numbers in Serial Number Contests

To: Tom Osborne <w7why@frontier.com>
Subject: Re: [CQ-Contest] The Insanity of Cut Numbers in Serial Number Contests
From: "Alan M. Eshleman" <doctore@well.com>
Date: Sun, 14 Dec 2014 19:53:54 -0800 (PST)
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The cut number plague has apparently swept Japan as witnessed during the recent 
ARRL 10 Meter contest.  Zero is no rarely "t" but now "O" as in (---).  My 
favorite exchange this weekend was someone sending his number ten (using the 
"traditional" cut numbers) as "TNT".  Frankly, the whole practice of cut 
numbers would profit from a little TNT.

73, Alan/K6SRZ

----- Original Message -----
From: "Tom Osborne" <w7why@frontier.com>
To: cq-contest@contesting.com
Sent: Sunday, December 14, 2014 6:34:03 PM
Subject: Re: [CQ-Contest] The Insanity of Cut Numbers in Serial Number  Contests

Especially when they are sending at 50wpm with over the pole flutter.

I've fond the best thing to do if they are running is just keep asking 
for repeats until they slow down or send numbers.

After everyone just keeps sending 'agn??' they might get the idea cut 
number don't work  73
Tom W7WHY


On 12/14/2014 10:34 AM, Bill Hider wrote:
> Pete,
>
> I couldn't agree with you more!
>
> I shake my head every time I hear a cut number, before I go into 'translation 
> mode' to figure out what the heck the actual number was that was sent.
>
> Bill N3RR
>
> On Dec 14, 2014 9:50 AM, Pete Smith N4ZR <n4zr@contesting.com> wrote:
>> Please, please don'tuse cut numbers when transmitting a serial number.
>> I've even heard some Es and As today - that's just absurd, and
>> counterproductive..
>>
>> There is good information science behind this plea.  When you really
>> need to get a number right, particularly with weak signals, even the
>> most common cut numbers, like N and T, are more trouble than they are
>> worth in time saving.  Why?  Because each full number has five elements,
>> grouped together - that is consecutive dots or dashes.  Your brain can
>> use this fact to copy confidently, even if QRM or QSB causes you not to
>> hear a dit or dah, because of spacing *between* numbers.  If you send a
>> cut number, you deprive the receiving op of this aid - he asks for a
>> fill, and you've lost more time than the cut number would save you in 5
>> QSOs.
>>
>> -- 
>>
>> 73, Pete N4ZR
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