Couple of things. Current rules say you have to take 30 minutes in an off
period. My proposal says that nowhere do the legal on times overlap. With
or without the separating off time. If the rule was operate one call and
then operate the other with no going back, then the off time is
superfluous.
I just think that from the first call sign, you should have to dump your
run frequency and the second log have the same disadvantage as anyone else
starting the contest late. It might be as simple as you must change
frequency to start the second log. A run frequency on 40/20m is a valuable
commodity.
This is the method that looks most like two unrelated logs, and does the
least change in how records work. That does require that neither log can
exceed the 24 hour limit.
As to only working club members or such, for as long as I can remember,
getting on for a little while, and looking around for club members to work,
has been going on forever, and is legal now.
Other variations are...just to feed discussion...
1) You can change callsigns once for your first contact after 1400Z Sunday,
or after 12 hours "on" time with the first call, whichever occurs first.
Must change run frequency at the switch. Log times for both not exceed 24
hours.
2) Open changes. Any "on" time for the second call sign must lie within a
legal "off" time of the first call sign AND VICE VERSA. This means that a
call flip keeps the prior call off the air for at least a half an hour,
preventing very short call flips just to pick up a multiplier. Operator
doing a sign change may not retain use of a running frequency, and must
move at least 500 Hz on CW or 2.5 kHz on SSB for a new run frequency, and
may not reuse the original frequency for running for at least ten minutes.
Neither log may exceed the 24 hour limit. This means that any station
gets his six hours of sleep without losing competitively in the single
operator competitions against someone who changes call signs.
East coast call sign changes at 1 or 2 am EST might actually perk up that
three hour dead zone for the west coast guys on low bands.
Hope someone besides us is reading this.
73, Guy.
On Fri, Feb 1, 2013 at 10:07 PM, <Jimk8mr@aol.com> wrote:
> **
>
> I don't understand the ARRL's phobia about the use of more than one call
> per transmitter or QTH (family stations exempted). It's not going to
> prevent manufactured contacts - somebody doing that simply would not send
> in a log for that call(s).
>
> CQ doesn't share the phobia, and I like it. In the recent CQ 160 contest I
> started over the second night as W3USA, and was running 120 hours with low
> power. It was a lot more fun than tuning around trying to keep the rate
> above 40. I hope nobody I worked twice minded. (I also got back on for the
> last hour Sunday afternoon as K8MR, for another 40 or so QSOs. But I would
> not object to the concept of forbidding this).
>
> I would suggest a couple of variations on what K2AV suggested. I don't see
> a need to limit an operator to 24 hours among the various calls. If he is
> still going strong at hour 24 at 0200z Monday, let him go. I don't see the
> need to limit it to two calls. And I don't see need for an off time when
> switching calls, But these are minor points.
>
> I sense that there are lots of people who by the end of SS (or other
> contests) who know they aren't going to win and don't care. But they would
> have a lot of fun as "fresh meat". And the rest of us contest carnivores
> would be delighted to take what they offer.
>
>
> 73 - Jim
>
>
>
>
> In a message dated 2/1/2013 7:26:15 P.M. Eastern Standard Time,
> olinger@bellsouth.net writes:
>
> Reads like, you can do anything, except the rules are off the table, so
> basically you are talking about people selling the Sweepstakes. Clubs will
> for club competition. But individuals to other individuals? Folks do this
> word of mouth thing and that's how good things grow.
>
> But you take the rules entirely off the table and you hope the big clubs
> are in there. After that, you wanna pay money to advertise the SS on TV?
>
> The biggest individually self-limiting aspect the contest has is
> saturation. Work out the stations and slow way down, but this encourages
> "fresh meat" stations on Sunday that get a lot of attention. At PVRC we
> tell the guys that can only put in 5-6-7 hours to do it on Sunday, and run,
> not S&P, and forget about chasing mults on spots. If by increased
> participation you mean total QSO count, that strategy works.
>
> If someone could suggest a rule change, and this is partially allowed now,
> but is a mechanical nightmare, and that is starting over with a new call
> sign. If you change stations and use "unused" transmitters you can do it
> now. NCCC used it extensively at one time.
>
> You could ALLOW a second call sign to be used at the same station on the
> same equipment by the same operator. Once second call sign in use, log of
> first call sign used by that op is frozen and can't be used again in the
> contest. Either call sign could only be used once in the contest and
> cannot have overlapping start and finish times. Stop of one and start of
> the other must be separated by a legal off time (30 minutes currently)
> Think everything you need to enforce that is in the log. With that rule
> some of us in club competition would start Sunday morning with second call
> sign. The timing of the switch to maximize a club score would be a real
> science. A pair of logs from the same operator would be listed and scored
> separately, eligible for awards only separately. Separate log submission
> to the robot. The two logs combined subject to the 24 hour limit. It
> would sure change Sunday afternoon. Let the clubs worry about how they
> award their internal awards.
>
> Those who want to max out for top scores and awards just keep doing what
> they are doing. Just more call signs to work overall. "Double-signing"
> would be optional and up to the individual. Doesn't mess with records,
> other rules, just allows an option that might make Sundays fun.
>
> If you want to leave it to the operator whether they want to sleep or not,
> then just say that the log of one call in a pair must have all its "on"
> times entirely within the legal "off" times of the other, and all current
> rules for time and max still apply to each log separately. ARRL log
> scoring program handle that easily. Operators would restart logging
> program on the other call. Logging program coders would be asked to not
> support instant call flipping.
>
> The improvement in total score from an individual op's two logs would come
> not so much from lack of sleep as it would from making Sunday meaningful
> when you've operated hard on Saturday.
>
> That's a rule change that wouldn't mess with scoring, records, awards, etc,
> and would increase the total QSO count, especially on Sunday. Clubs would
> need to strategize. But they're deep into that already.
>
> Just a thought.
>
> 73, Guy.
>
>
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