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Re: [Amps] Fw: Needed, quality watt meter

To: Phil LaMarche <plamarc1@verizon.net>, 'Dick W1KSZ' <w1ksz@q.com>, amps@contesting.com
Subject: Re: [Amps] Fw: Needed, quality watt meter
From: Jim W7RY <w7ry@inbox.com>
Date: Wed, 11 Aug 2010 18:59:43 -0800
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        I did exactly the opposite!  73 

        Jim W7RY 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: plamarc1@verizon.net
> Sent: Wed, 11 Aug 2010 17:10:42 -0400
> To: w7ry@inbox.com, w1ksz@q.com, amps@contesting.com
> Subject: RE: [Amps] Fw: Needed, quality watt meter
> 
> 
> I've also owned that meter and liked it very much. However, after
> getting
> the LP-100A digital vector RF meter, I sold the Power Master. Both are
> great, however.
> 
> Phil
> 
> 
> Philip LaMarche
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> -----Original Message-----
> From: amps-bounces@contesting.com [mailto:amps-bounces@contesting.com] On
> Behalf Of Jim W7RY
> Sent: Wednesday, August 11, 2010 5:02 PM
> To: Dick W1KSZ; amps@contesting.com
> Subject: Re: [Amps] Fw: Needed, quality watt meter
> 
> I love my Array Solutions Power Master.
> 
> Expensive but works great! With the bar graph, tune up is a breeze.
> 
> 73
> Jim W7RY
> 
> 
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: w1ksz@q.com
>> Sent: Wed, 11 Aug 2010 13:57:15 -0700
>> To: amps@contesting.com
>> Subject: Re: [Amps] Fw: Needed, quality watt meter
>> 
>> I have never been able to get used to the digital wattmeters for
>> tuning up the amp. Guess I'm just old fashioned !!
>> 
>> 73, Dick, W1KSZ
>> 
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: amps-bounces@contesting.com [mailto:amps-bounces@contesting.com]On
>> Behalf Of Gary Smith
>> Sent: Wednesday, August 11, 2010 10:11 AM
>> To: amps@contesting.com
>> Subject: [Amps] Fw: Needed, quality watt meter
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: Gary Smith
>> To: Roger
>> Sent: Wednesday, August 11, 2010 9:40 AM
>> Subject: Re: [Amps] Needed, quality watt meter
>> 
>> 
>> It is not portable, but it is nice. I am using a Wavenode WN-2 watt
>> meter
>> along with the included software. It is a very nice convenience to look
>> at
>> the computer screen and see rf peak and average output along with
>> reflected
>> power at the same time. The sensors remote very nicely, the digital
>> readout
>> sits atop the amp. Imo, this is one of "the best of both worlds" I have
>> seen to date. also in the software package is a on screen scope that
>> allows
>> you to see the audio/cw wave form while transmitting.
>> 73, Gary...wa6fgi
>> 
>> 
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: Roger
>> To: Amps@contesting.com
>> Sent: Tuesday, August 10, 2010 6:59 PM
>> Subject: [Amps] Needed, quality watt meter
>> 
>> 
>> Again, I find I have a question that probably goes best both on amps as
>> well as tower talk and I do not cross post.
>> 
>> A while back my Bird 43 Thruline Wattmeter was destroyed, or at best,
>> "over cooked" by the Muffler shroud on my large lawnmower. (It's a long
>> story)
>> The thing got so hot it actually blew the end out of one of the slugs
>> and the glass in the meter is cracked along with a very smoky housing.
>> 
>> At any rate, I need to replace the watt meter and come up with a valid
>> quote for the 43 and slugs. This actually brings up two questions.
>> Where is the best place to get the purchase price on a model 43 AND
>> slugs. Remember that even IF they pay for all of the "old meter and
>> slugs" it's certainly not going to pay the "long dollar" so I need to
>> shop as if I were the one purchasing as I really am.
>> 
>> The second question is what is the "best" meter in the portable class
>> that does not cost as much as a piece of laboratory test equipment.
>> I'm currently using a Daiwa CN-801 between the amp and the Palstar AT5K
>> tuner. The 801 which is 2KW full scale goes right up against the pin
>> at
>> full carrier into a Palstar DL5K dummy load. The AT5K internal watt
>> meter shows 2KW, which is what it should show IF the amp is running as
>> it should when going up to "tilt". So I know the 801 is at the least,
>> generous. However I have no way of checking it against the internal
>> watt
>> meter of the AT5K in the PEP mode. I never had a chance to compare
>> either of the two against the Bird 43. I'm well aware of many of the
>> problems getting an accurate reading which is why I'm working into a
>> "dry" dummy load with two honkin big resistors and TWO fans that sound
>> like I need to tie the desk down when they kick into high.
>> 
>> This leaves me with two problems. One is the requirment for a meter
>> that
>> will hit 2500 or 3000 watts full scale for the dummy load. Running this
>> much full scale means that when running the legal limit which I desire
>> to maintain in PEP, I will only be half scale with all the inaccuracies
>> that adds in. I would *like* to come up with something that will be
>> good
>> enough to use as a reference for the meters in current use at least
>> into
>> the dummy load. The CN-801 is generous enough that when it shows 1500
>> PEP I'm likely to be some where around 1 KW PEP. Yes, I realize the
>> difference between 1 and 1.5KW is not very large db wise.
>> 
>> Any suggestions?
>> 
>> 73
>> 
>> Roger (K8RI)
>> 
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