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Subject: Re: [Amps] Amps Digest, Vol 86, Issue 52
From: K3vw@aol.com
Date: Sun, 14 Feb 2010 13:41:28 EST
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Greg, W7MY, the 3CX800's are triodes and the GU-74B's are Tetrodes. Willy  
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Today's Topics:

1. Manual for a  Systems Electronics AM 200 Impedance Bridge
(Alton  McConnell)
2. Tentec Titan 425 with GU74-B???? (Greg  Chartrand)
3. Epilogue:  Ameritron QSK-5 Insertion Loss  (Paul Christensen)
4. Re: Tentec Titan 425 with GU74-B????  (Roger)
5. Re: WTB: Amp supply LK-500 Filament Transformer (R.  David Eagle)
6. HP 851B Spectrum Analyzer and HP 400DR VTVM  for sale (Kansas
City area) (Robert  Groh)
7. 100k  .2% tol  eq resistor. (Jim  Thomson)
8. Re: HP 851B Spectrum Analyzer and HP 400DR VTVM  for sale
(Kansas   City area) (Fuqua, Bill  L)
9. Fw:  Tentec Titan 425 with GU74-B???? (budi  santoso)
10. Re: HP 851B Spectrum Analyzer and HP 400DR VTVM for  sale
(Kansas City area) (Robert  Groh)


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Message:  1
Date: Sat, 13 Feb 2010 20:22:46 +0000
From: Alton McConnell  <amcconnell3@hotmail.com>
Subject: [Amps] Manual for a Systems  Electronics AM 200 Impedance
Bridge
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Hello  eferyone:



Does anyone have a digitized manual for a Systems  Electronics (Cleveland, 
OH) AM 200 Impedance  Brdige?



Thanks,

Alton, NU8L

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Message:  2
Date: Sat, 13 Feb 2010 13:37:41 -0800 (PST)
From: Greg Chartrand  <w7my@yahoo.com>
Subject: [Amps] Tentec Titan 425 with  GU74-B????
To: amps@contesting.com
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I'm looking at buying a pair of GU74-B's  to have on hand as spares for my 
Titan 425. Has anyone out there replaced the  3cx800A7's with  GU74-B's??
Greg

---------------------------------------------------------

Greg  Chartrand - W7MY 

Richland, WA.

DN-06IF



W7MY Home  Page:

http://webpages.charter.net/w7my/




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Message: 3
Date: Sat, 13 Feb  2010 17:31:30 -0500
From: "Paul Christensen"  <w9ac@arrl.net>
Subject: [Amps] Epilogue:  Ameritron QSK-5  Insertion Loss
To: <amps@contesting.com>
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This afternoon, I conducted more comprehensive  insertion loss testing 
through the Ameritron QSK-5.  I confirmed that  the result of the excessive 
loss is primarily due to the SPE's ATU being  in-line, even in bypass.  In 
bypass, the ATU must still be optimized  per band and per band segment.  
More 
than likely, I had not optimized  the SPE tuner before testing and had 
neglected to include all tuner loss,  thinking that the SPE was in hard 
bypass in "standby" mode through what I  imagined was a high-quality relay 
bypass with short leads, resulting in a  fairly constant Z through the 
bypass 
and essentially minimial loss.   The SPE ATU is indeed active whether the 
amp 
is in bypass or  operate.

I again ran 100W through the SPE after optimizing the ATU in  bypass, and 
measured only the diffefrence of the QSK-5 being in and out of  the circuit 
and reconfirmed by testing with the SPE amp in hard bypass by  jumpering 
the 
amp's In and Out cables together.  Recall that my QSK-5  is never in bypass 
mode through its internal relays; its always in the  operate mode through 
the 
PIN diodes and amp bias is controled  seperately.

Measured QSK-5 loss:

40m:     0.22  dB
10m      0.23 dB

Measured loss through SPE tuner  using "auto-tune" optimizing:

40m     0.30  dB
10m     1.00 dB

The disparity between my original  1.5 dB loss on 10m and the new combined 
measurement of 1.23 dB is likely  the result of the ATU not being optimized 
and saved to memory during the  initial testing.  The SPE amp uses a 
switched 
relay network  consisting of caps and toroids much like that used in many 
of 
today's  internal rig tuners.  My experience is that switched component 
tuners  in general are more lossy than classic internal tuners using 
variable 
C  and switched or variable  L.

Again, today's testing was conducted  using a Bird 150W Terma-Line load.  
I'm 
much happier with the QSK-5  loss performance now.

Paul,  W9AC




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Message:  4
Date: Sat, 13 Feb 2010 18:02:41 -0500
From: Roger  <sub1@rogerhalstead.com>
Subject: Re: [Amps] Tentec Titan 425 with  GU74-B????
To: Greg Chartrand <w7my@yahoo.com>
Cc:  amps@contesting.com
Message-ID:  <4B772F91.3070009@rogerhalstead.com>
Content-Type: text/plain;  charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed



Greg Chartrand wrote:
>  I'm looking at buying a pair of GU74-B's to have on hand as spares for 
my  Titan 425. Has anyone out there replaced the 3cx800A7's with  GU74-B's??
> Greg
>   
The GU-74B's are supposedly  the same as the 4CX-800, not the 3CX-800A7

73

Roger  (K8RI)

73

Roger (K8RI
>  ---------------------------------------------------------
>
> Greg  Chartrand - W7MY 
>
> Richland, WA.
>
>  DN-06IF
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Message: 5
Date: Sat, 13  Feb 2010 15:10:37 -0800 (PST)
From: "R. David Eagle"  <kb8nnu@yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: [Amps] WTB: Amp supply LK-500  Filament Transformer
To: James Colville <jimw7ry@gmail.com>
Cc:  amps@contesting.com
Message-ID:  <121749.99238.qm@web51703.mail.re2.yahoo.com>
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Thanks for the tip, Jim!? That did it  and now we're working once again.? 
It took a little brain surgery to get into  it but it was obviously a cold 
solder joint from the center tap and the lead  coming out of the secondary!? I 
just hope Murphy stays away during the next  contest!

Thanks  again,

Dave
KB8NNU




________________________________
From:  James Colville <jimw7ry@gmail.com>
To: R. David Eagle  <kb8nnu@yahoo.com>
Cc: amps@contesting.com
Sent: Sat, February 13,  2010 2:48:36 PM
Subject: Re: [Amps] WTB: Amp supply LK-500 Filament  Transformer


"dig" the center tap out of the transformer and  re-solder it. You may have 
to peel some paper back to do it.

Give it a  try!
73
Jim W7RY


?
On Sat, Feb 13, 2010 at 11:32 AM, R.  David Eagle <kb8nnu@yahoo.com> wrote:

Hello all...A couple weeks  ago I posted a message to the group about 
losing my grid/plate current and  finally found that it was a loose wire on the 
center tap of the secondary on  the filament transformer....and let me tell 
you that it is an annoying problem  to find!!!
>
>So now I am in search of a replacement.? If anyone  has a filament 
transformer?(pref. Dahl)?for an Amp Supply LK-500NT, please  drop me an  email.
>
>Thanks,
>
>Dave
>kb8nnu
>
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Message:  6
Date: Sat, 13 Feb 2010 15:28:06 -0800 (PST)
From: Robert Groh  <rgroh@swbell.net>
Subject: [Amps] HP 851B Spectrum Analyzer and HP  400DR VTVM for sale
(Kansas City area)
To:  amps@contesting.com
Message-ID:  <256982.70090.qm@web83813.mail.sp1.yahoo.com>
Content-Type:  text/plain; charset=us-ascii

I just put an vintage HP 851 Spectrum  Analyzer on our local (i.e. Kansas 
City) Craigslist and thought I might just  mention it here in case someone is 
 interested.
<http://kansascity.craigslist.org/ele/1599589710.html>

It  is a big and bulky item and I really, really don't want to ship it. The 
price  is low (or at least I think it is - open to offers if it doesn't 
leap (?) off  the shelf. It is not really appropriate to look at IMD as it just 
doesn't have  the resolution (i.e. bandwidth and scan are toooo wide) but 
then again I'm not  asking a lot. It hasn't been used in many, many years and 
I have no idea how  easy it will to be get going. 

I also have a vintage HP AC VTVM (HP  400D in rack mount) for  sale
<http://kansascity.craigslist.org/ele/1599585100.html>

Nice  little beast but, of course, old. Basically 1 mV FS to 300 V FS, 10 
Hz to 4  MHz.  This one would be fairly easy to ship. 

So there you go.  Trying desperately to pare down the 'stuff' in the ham 
shack!   

73
Bob Groh,  WA2CKY

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Message: 7
Date: Sat,  13 Feb 2010 18:02:13 -0800
From: "Jim Thomson"  <Jim.thom@telus.net>
Subject: [Amps] 100k  .2% tol  eq  resistor.
To: <amps@contesting.com>
Message-ID:  <BC7F9269BD0141BFA201AFC485037479@JimboPC>
Content-Type:  text/plain;   charset="iso-8859-1"

Some have had difficulty  finding this part in the mouser catalog.     I 
plugged in the  below...  "Vishay CPF3100K00FHB14"     into mousers own  
search box........ and it comes out  right away.   they have  150 in stock.   
If 
anybody actually orders em.. perhaps ask mouser  nicely, to order  a bunch 
more of em... like several hundred.   When I got mine last yr.. they came in 
100 per box.   



Vishay CPF3100K00FHB14


later.... Jim   VE7RF














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Message:  8
Date: Sun, 14 Feb 2010 01:15:50 -0500
From: "Fuqua, Bill L"  <wlfuqu00@uky.edu>
Subject: Re: [Amps] HP 851B Spectrum Analyzer and  HP 400DR VTVM for
sale (Kansas    City area)
To:  Robert Groh <rgroh@swbell.net>, "amps@contesting.com"
<amps@contesting.com>
Message-ID:
<60374AAC83C8764A98809A65BED321CB0183F24CB4@EX7FM04.ad.uky.edu>
Content-Type:  text/plain; charset="us-ascii"

I realize a lot of people are getting  away from EBAY for various reasons.  
Where are they auctioning their  stuff off now days. I am finding less and 
less on ebay.

73
bill  wa4lav

________________________________________
From:  amps-bounces@contesting.com [amps-bounces@contesting.com] On Behalf 
Of Robert  Groh [rgroh@swbell.net]
Sent: Saturday, February 13, 2010 6:28 PM
To:  amps@contesting.com
Subject: [Amps] HP 851B Spectrum Analyzer and HP 400DR  VTVM for sale 
(Kansas    City area)

I just put an vintage HP  851 Spectrum Analyzer on our local (i.e. Kansas 
City) Craigslist and thought I  might just mention it here in case someone is 
 interested.
<http://kansascity.craigslist.org/ele/1599589710.html>

It  is a big and bulky item and I really, really don't want to ship it. The 
price  is low (or at least I think it is - open to offers if it doesn't 
leap (?) off  the shelf. It is not really appropriate to look at IMD as it just 
doesn't have  the resolution (i.e. bandwidth and scan are toooo wide) but 
then again I'm not  asking a lot. It hasn't been used in many, many years and 
I have no idea how  easy it will to be get going.

I also have a vintage HP AC VTVM (HP 400D  in rack mount) for  sale
<http://kansascity.craigslist.org/ele/1599585100.html>

Nice  little beast but, of course, old. Basically 1 mV FS to 300 V FS, 10 
Hz to 4  MHz.  This one would be fairly easy to ship.

So there you go.  Trying desperately to pare down the 'stuff' in the ham 
shack!

73
Bob  Groh, WA2CKY
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Message:  9
Date: Sun, 14 Feb 2010 15:57:45 +0800 (SGT)
From: budi santoso  <yb1bs@yahoo.co.id>
Subject: [Amps] Fw:  Tentec Titan 425 with  GU74-B????
To: amps@contesting.com
Message-ID:  <681937.39301.qm@web76604.mail.sg1.yahoo.com>
Content-Type:  text/plain; charset=us-ascii








why GU74-B It  is tetrode, you will need screen grid supply etc.
You can use 3CPX800, I  got a pair medical eq. pull for 350 US$ from eBay, 
just plug in and still give  more 1500 W output. It need more driving power 
but it is ok (grid current 30  mA.plate current 1000 mA for 1500 W output).
73

budi /  yb1bs




________________________________
From: Greg  Chartrand <w7my@yahoo.com>
To: amps@contesting.com
Sent: Sun,  February 14, 2010 4:37:41 AM
Subject: [Amps] Tentec Titan 425 with  GU74-B????

I'm looking at buying a pair of GU74-B's to have on hand as  spares for my 
Titan 425. Has anyone out there replaced the 3cx800A7's with  GU74-B's??
Greg

---------------------------------------------------------

Greg  Chartrand - W7MY 

Richland, WA.

DN-06IF



W7MY Home  Page:

http://webpages.charter.net/w7my/



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Message:  10
Date: Sun, 14 Feb 2010 07:59:06 -0800 (PST)
From: Robert Groh  <rgroh@swbell.net>
Subject: Re: [Amps] HP 851B Spectrum Analyzer and  HP 400DR VTVM for
sale    (Kansas City area)
To:  "Fuqua, Bill L" <wlfuqu00@uky.edu>, "amps@contesting.com"
<amps@contesting.com>
Message-ID:  <596610.38461.qm@web83808.mail.sp1.yahoo.com>
Content-Type:  text/plain; charset=us-ascii

Auction sites other than EBAY?  Not  sure of any.  I do use EBAY a fair 
amount but I hate having to ship BIG  stuff so local Craigslist has been a good 
option.  Not a very wide  audience but reasonable to expect a local pickup! 
Of course, you can get your  sneaky types also but it works and the cost is 
low. 

For the HP851 the  shipping would be a big problem - not that it isn't 
doable but that is one big  piece of stuff and it would take a pretty fair 
amount of effort to package it  right for shipment. And even then, with the 
oscilloscope tube in there ---  scary stuff. I've done it before and I don't 
like 
doing it. Too much hassle.  Now if I could find a local packaging/shipping 
company that uses the  'foam-in-place' technique -- I would be there for 
that. 

73
Bob  WA2CKY





________________________________
From:  "Fuqua, Bill L" <wlfuqu00@uky.edu>
To: Robert Groh  <rgroh@swbell.net>; "amps@contesting.com"  
<amps@contesting.com>
Sent: Sun, February 14, 2010 12:15:50  AM
Subject: RE: [Amps] HP 851B Spectrum Analyzer and HP 400DR VTVM for sale  
(Kansas City area)

I realize a lot of people are getting away from EBAY  for various reasons.  
Where are they auctioning their stuff off now  days. I am finding less and 
less on ebay.

73
bill  wa4lav

________________________________________
From:  amps-bounces@contesting.com [amps-bounces@contesting.com] On Behalf 
Of Robert  Groh [rgroh@swbell.net]
Sent: Saturday, February 13, 2010 6:28 PM
To:  amps@contesting.com
Subject: [Amps] HP 851B Spectrum Analyzer and HP 400DR  VTVM for sale 
(Kansas    City area)

I just put an vintage HP  851 Spectrum Analyzer on our local (i.e. Kansas 
City) Craigslist and thought I  might just mention it here in case someone is 
 interested.
<http://kansascity.craigslist.org/ele/1599589710.html>

It  is a big and bulky item and I really, really don't want to ship it. The 
price  is low (or at least I think it is - open to offers if it doesn't 
leap (?) off  the shelf. It is not really appropriate to look at IMD as it just 
doesn't have  the resolution (i.e. bandwidth and scan are toooo wide) but 
then again I'm not  asking a lot. It hasn't been used in many, many years and 
I have no idea how  easy it will to be get going.

I also have a vintage HP AC VTVM (HP 400D  in rack mount) for  sale
<http://kansascity.craigslist.org/ele/1599585100.html>

Nice  little beast but, of course, old. Basically 1 mV FS to 300 V FS, 10 
Hz to 4  MHz.  This one would be fairly easy to ship.

So there you go.  Trying desperately to pare down the 'stuff' in the ham 
shack!

73
Bob  Groh, WA2CKY
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