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Subject: [Amps] 800H questions
From: 2@vc.net (2)
Date: Wed, 11 Sep 2002 09:12:40 -0700
>I have a Ameritron 800H that I am having some problems with power output.  I 
>called Ameritron this week and they helped a lot, but still not sure if my 
>amp is ill.  
>
>The problem Ameritron ID'd was that my line voltage was down.  It was 
>showing 
>a HV of 2,400V going down to 2,100V when transmitting. So they suggested I 
>redo the transformer taps so that I set the amp for the highest line voltage 
>at 230V vs the factory setting at 240 volts.  This worked very well and my 
>HV 
>went up to almost 2,700V going down to 2,400V when transmitting. It 
>increased 
>my over-all average power from 1,300W to 1,750W.  

**  1.2db makes no perceptable difference at the RX end on MF/HF.
>
>But I still need the IC756Pro to drive the amp with 110 watts to get this 
>power and after about 30 seconds of pulse keying, the average power 
>decreases 
>down to about 1,400 watts. . 

**  This suggests that the 3cx800s have Ba migration from the cathode to 
the grid.  To reduce the rate of barium migration, operate the heater 
just above the minimum rated V.   
-  What is the measured heater V in this amplifier?

>At 65 watts of drive, I'm only averaging about 
>1 KW out but I don't see a power drop using pulse keying at this decreased 
>drive level. 
>
>Can anyone suggest anything else I can trouble shoot to get the amp to put 
>out a steady 1.5KW with less drive vs what I'm having to drive it with now?  
>Is this a tube issue?  The tubes are only 2 years old-  Also, when I turn 
>the 
>amp on, I hear a sizzling sound for a few seconds.........any chance that my 
>over all problems are related to a troubled transformer/power supply??  


**  The AL-800 needs a step-start and a glitch resistor.  Lower-Q vhf 
suppressors might not be a bad idea.  However, if an Ameritron amplifier 
is ever returned for factory service with such suppressors, Mr. Tom Rauch 
told me that he will have them "ripped out".  

>Should I cut my losses now and just find a new amp or is there something 
>obviously ablaze here? 
>
**  There is no such thing as a perfect amplifier.  [see "The Nearly 
Perfect Amplifier", *QST*, January, 1994)  However, those who can solder 
and comprehend English can pretty much arrive there by fixing the 
oversights in a commercial amplifier. //  Other improvements for 
Ameritron amplifiers are:
1.  Replace the high-tech RF-actuated bias switching with old-fashioned 
in-sync bias switching so that the amplifier can not switch to non-linear 
bias during soft-syllables of speech and generate feculence. 
2.  Install the high-speed switching mod.  {<2mS, c.$60}
3.  Remove any g-g  "neutralization" circuitry. 
4.  Install a 50mm-75mm DC fan to blow air on the bandswith and tank.


cheers, Paul

*  Murphy was right --"if anything can possibly go wrong,  it will at the 
worst possible moment".

-  R. L. Measures, a.k.a. Rich..., 805.386.3734,AG6K, 
www.vcnet.com/measures.  
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