- 1. Topband: Shared Apex Loop Array (score: 1)
- Author: Anthony Scandurra K4QE <k4qe@att.net>
- Date: Sat, 3 Nov 2012 18:23:30 -0400
- I did a search and haven't found any previous comments on this reflector about the Shared Apex Loop Array. Has anyone tried it yet? -- 73, Tony K4QE Elecraft K3 #6478 + P3 #2058 + KPA500 #844 + PR6 +
- /archives//html/Topband/2012-11/msg00045.html (6,351 bytes)
- 2. Topband: Shared Apex Loop Array (score: 1)
- Author: "W7KW" <w7kw.terry@gmail.com>
- Date: Sat, 8 Feb 2014 12:53:11 -0700
- Recently I came across an interesting advertisement for the Shared Apex Loop Array, SALA, and thought I would poll the Top Banders to see if they have used one and get your opinions before plunging i
- /archives//html/Topband/2014-02/msg00099.html (6,929 bytes)
- 3. Topband: Shared Apex Loop Array (score: 1)
- Author: Carl Luetzelschwab <carlluetzelschwab@gmail.com>
- Date: Sat, 8 Feb 2014 16:12:09 -0500
- Terry W7KW, Yesterday I posted a message here about the Shared Apex Loop Array. N3OC's review of it appears in the February PVRC newsletter. My Product Review of it will appear in the April QST. My e
- /archives//html/Topband/2014-02/msg00100.html (6,712 bytes)
- 4. Re: Topband: Shared Apex Loop Array (score: 1)
- Author: bruce whitney <zuceman@yahoo.com>
- Date: Sat, 8 Feb 2014 19:26:19 -0800 (PST)
- Carl, I have used 4 bi-direction 760 foot Beverages for 5 years or so here in Michigan. I put up the AS SAL-30 a month ago and my experience with the has been very favorable. I can't do a direct A to
- /archives//html/Topband/2014-02/msg00101.html (8,187 bytes)
- 5. Topband: Shared Apex Loop Array (score: 1)
- Author: D Rodman MD <rodman@buffalo.edu>
- Date: Sun, 09 Feb 2014 12:19:29 -0500
- I recently put reviews about the SAL-20 and SAL-30 on eham.net if anyone is interested. Two on air demonstrations of the F/B are on YouTube. Please refer to: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tVi5xQIXnX
- /archives//html/Topband/2014-02/msg00103.html (7,338 bytes)
- 6. Re: Topband: Shared Apex Loop Array (score: 1)
- Author: donovanf@starpower.net
- Date: Sun, 9 Feb 2014 13:13:54 -0500 (EST)
- See N3OC's review of the Shared Apex Loop Array in the February PVRC Newsletter, page 5 http://pvrc.org/Newsletters/feb14.pdf Its competitive with other small receiving arrays and single Beverages an
- /archives//html/Topband/2014-02/msg00104.html (8,302 bytes)
- 7. Re: Topband: Shared Apex Loop Array (score: 1)
- Author: "Carl" <km1h@jeremy.mv.com>
- Date: Sun, 9 Feb 2014 14:36:20 -0500
- Is the SAL-30 available piecemeal? I have plenty of wire, coax, enclosures, support tubing, etc, and would just need the proprietary controller Since I already have 5 two wire 500-750' Beverages for
- /archives//html/Topband/2014-02/msg00105.html (10,061 bytes)
- 8. Re: Topband: Shared Apex Loop Array (score: 1)
- Author: <chacuff@cableone.net>
- Date: Sun, 9 Feb 2014 19:53:53 +0000
- Im curious if its really any different than a two loop K9AY on one support. Cecil K5DL Is the SAL-30 available piecemeal? I have plenty of wire, coax, enclosures, support tubing, etc, and would just
- /archives//html/Topband/2014-02/msg00106.html (10,804 bytes)
- 9. Re: Topband: Shared Apex Loop Array (score: 1)
- Author: W2PM <w2pm@aol.com>
- Date: Sun, 9 Feb 2014 15:29:07 -0500
- It seems to me as a user of many types of loops of all sizes in a noisy residential area, that there is still something beyond Lower take off angle from the long beverages vs these loops, and perhaps
- /archives//html/Topband/2014-02/msg00107.html (10,429 bytes)
- 10. Re: Topband: Shared Apex Loop Array (score: 1)
- Author: Rik van Riel <riel@surriel.com>
- Date: Sun, 09 Feb 2014 15:31:59 -0500
- A K9AY has a cardioid pattern, with a single null in the back. The SALA is cross fire fed, with a single lobe in one direction, and greatly attenuated reception in all other directions. -- All rights
- /archives//html/Topband/2014-02/msg00108.html (8,134 bytes)
- 11. Re: Topband: Shared Apex Loop Array (score: 1)
- Author: Russ <erusst@yahoo.com>
- Date: Sun, 09 Feb 2014 15:50:27 -0500
- Carl, You can check out the original article in the Oct. 2012 issue of QST. I believe there was a QEX article also around the same time. Russ, N3CO _________________ Topband Reflector Archives - http
- /archives//html/Topband/2014-02/msg00109.html (11,031 bytes)
- 12. Re: Topband: Shared Apex Loop Array (score: 1)
- Author: "Tom W8JI" <w8ji@w8ji.com>
- Date: Mon, 10 Feb 2014 12:24:52 -0500
- I have used 4 bi-direction 760 foot Beverages for 5 years or so here in Michigan. I put up the AS SAL-30 a month ago and my experience with the has been very favorable. I can't do a direct A to B wit
- /archives//html/Topband/2014-02/msg00117.html (10,841 bytes)
- 13. Re: Topband: Shared Apex Loop Array (score: 1)
- Author: "Tom W8JI" <w8ji@w8ji.com>
- Date: Mon, 10 Feb 2014 13:36:55 -0500
- Is is a two element crossfire vertically polarized array made from loops. Personally, if I were going to build one, I would spread the loops apart. I would make the loop centers as far apart as possi
- /archives//html/Topband/2014-02/msg00118.html (10,267 bytes)
- 14. Re: Topband: Shared Apex Loop Array (score: 1)
- Author: bruce whitney <zuceman@yahoo.com>
- Date: Mon, 10 Feb 2014 11:33:51 -0800 (PST)
- Tom, Good to hear you chime in on this topic - I listen very intently when the oracle of Barnesville speaks... I have been trying to learn more about the SAL array from the 4NEC2 models - as it se
- /archives//html/Topband/2014-02/msg00119.html (11,997 bytes)
- 15. Re: Topband: Shared Apex Loop Array (score: 1)
- Author: "Tom W8JI" <w8ji@w8ji.com>
- Date: Mon, 10 Feb 2014 15:40:33 -0500
- Regardless, I am not sure if any sort of "descriptive logical explanation" will ever allow me to understand what is going on with this antenna but I am beginning to get comfortable with the modeling.
- /archives//html/Topband/2014-02/msg00120.html (9,317 bytes)
- 16. Re: Topband: Shared Apex Loop Array (score: 1)
- Author: "Andy Ikin" <andrew.ikin@btopenworld.com>
- Date: Mon, 10 Feb 2014 16:12:27 -0500
- Bruce, I have considerable experience with loop arrays; whilst they are good performers in an electrically noisy environment, they suffer from poor directivity at higher angles. This can also be seen
- /archives//html/Topband/2014-02/msg00122.html (9,638 bytes)
- 17. Re: Topband: Shared Apex Loop Array (score: 1)
- Author: bruce whitney <zuceman@yahoo.com>
- Date: Mon, 10 Feb 2014 13:44:51 -0800 (PST)
- Tom, All of the dimesnions, including the location of the couplers from the center are on the Array Solutions Website in the SAL v 1.9 manual at: http://arraysolutions.com/Products/SAL_shared%20ape
- /archives//html/Topband/2014-02/msg00123.html (10,223 bytes)
- 18. Re: Topband: Shared Apex Loop Array (score: 1)
- Author: "James Wolf" <jbwolf@comcast.net>
- Date: Mon, 10 Feb 2014 17:29:56 -0500
- The antenna geometry indicates that it should perform similar to a Waller Flag *under the same conditions*. The Waller flag though, (as Tom has alluded to) has more spacing between the loops and is u
- /archives//html/Topband/2014-02/msg00124.html (10,463 bytes)
- 19. Re: Topband: Shared Apex Loop Array (score: 1)
- Author: bruce whitney <zuceman@yahoo.com>
- Date: Mon, 10 Feb 2014 18:12:05 -0800 (PST)
- James, Thank you for your observations and recommendations. I respect and appreciate the wisdom. However, I think I will get up close and personal with the modeling software and see what I can learn.
- /archives//html/Topband/2014-02/msg00125.html (11,897 bytes)
- 20. Re: Topband: Shared Apex Loop Array (score: 1)
- Author: "JC N4IS" <n4is@comcast.net>
- Date: Mon, 10 Feb 2014 21:54:01 -0500
- Hi Jim The antenna geometry indicates that it should perform similar to a Waller Flag *under the same conditions*. << The perform under same conditions is expected, however the WF RDF is between 11.5
- /archives//html/Topband/2014-02/msg00127.html (9,521 bytes)
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