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1. Topband: Tophat? Does it have to be at the top? (score: 1)
Author: Bill <k2wh@optonline.net>
Date: Sat, 05 Jun 2004 15:39:59 +0600
I would like to operate 160m using a shortened vertical. I have read alot about "Tophats" and I know what they do and why but, have never had an opportunity to put what I learned about them into prac
/archives//html/Topband/2004-06/msg00005.html (6,791 bytes)

2. Re: Topband: Tophat? Does it have to be at the top? (score: 1)
Author: "Thomas Kuehl" <ac7a@earthlink.net>
Date: Sun, 6 Jun 2004 10:58:49 -0700
Bill, The capacity hat should only be placed at the top of the vertical element. Placing the hat any lower on the element essentially chokes off any current flow above the hat making the antenna elec
/archives//html/Topband/2004-06/msg00011.html (8,659 bytes)

3. Re: Topband: Tophat? Does it have to be at the top? (score: 1)
Author: "Bob Tellefsen" <n6wg@comcast.net>
Date: Sun, 6 Jun 2004 14:03:28 -0700
Bill top loading wires would be ineffective. Top loading wires work best when at the top of the vertical section. Good luck and 73 Bob N6WG _______________________________________________ Topband mai
/archives//html/Topband/2004-06/msg00013.html (7,170 bytes)

4. RE: Topband: Tophat? Does it have to be at the top? (score: 1)
Author: "N2TK" <tony.kaz@verizon.net>
Date: Mon, 7 Jun 2004 07:44:45 -0400
How does the "hat" on a Cushcraft 402-CD work? You have those crossed aluminum rods after the coil, then extended aluminum after that. What happens if you take off the crossed rods? 73, N2TK, Tony --
/archives//html/Topband/2004-06/msg00015.html (9,504 bytes)

5. Re:Topband: Tophat? Does it have to be at the top? (score: 1)
Author: "i4jmy@iol.it" <i4jmy@iol.it>
Date: Mon, 7 Jun 2004 18:01:22 +0200
If the hat has the purpose of substantially loading a short element in the most efficient possible way, then it has to be at the top of the element. If the hat has instead the purpose of loading an e
/archives//html/Topband/2004-06/msg00016.html (8,041 bytes)

6. Re: Topband: Tophat? Does it have to be at the top? (score: 1)
Author: "Tom Rauch" <w8ji@contesting.com>
Date: Mon, 7 Jun 2004 12:13:59 -0400
those crossed that. What Tony, If they just needed to tweak the tuning very slightly and found that adding a hat was cheaper than retooling a coil form, then the hat is probably OK. If they added th
/archives//html/Topband/2004-06/msg00017.html (9,521 bytes)

7. RE: Topband: Tophat? Does it have to be at the top? (score: 1)
Author: "Joe Subich, K4IK" <k4ik@subich.com>
Date: Mon, 7 Jun 2004 17:50:51 -0400
The "hat" on the Cushcraft 402-CD (and XM-402) provides relatively little capacitance compared to the element tip. Without the "hats," the element tip would need to be extended by 24 to 36" each sid
/archives//html/Topband/2004-06/msg00018.html (8,522 bytes)

8. Re: Topband: Tophat? Does it have to be at the top? (score: 1)
Author: "Mike Harris" <mike.harris@horizon.co.fk>
Date: Tue, 8 Jun 2004 08:39:36 -0400
G'day, If the "tophat" effectively isolates the section of tower or what have you above it, then those folks matching towers with stacked beams are surely loosing quite a bit of effective structure.
/archives//html/Topband/2004-06/msg00021.html (7,970 bytes)

9. Re: Topband: Tophat? Does it have to be at the top? (score: 1)
Author: Cqtestk4xs@aol.com
Date: Tue, 8 Jun 2004 11:13:26 EDT
If the "tophat" effectively isolates the section of tower or what have you above it, then those folks matching towers with stacked beams are surely loosing quite a bit of effective structure. xxxxxxx
/archives//html/Topband/2004-06/msg00022.html (8,306 bytes)

10. Re: Topband: Tophat? Does it have to be at the top? (score: 1)
Author: "Milt Jensen" <n5ia@zia-connection.com>
Date: Tue, 8 Jun 2004 11:16:41 -0700
My experience with using towers with large directional antennas as the "top hat" follows the line of thinking that has been expressed in this thread thus far. For example, at W7MCO ( http://www.eaars
/archives//html/Topband/2004-06/msg00023.html (9,908 bytes)

11. Re: Topband: Tophat? Does it have to be at the top? (score: 1)
Author: Earl W Cunningham <k6se@juno.com>
Date: Tue, 8 Jun 2004 13:46:51 -0700
"I have several 200-foot towers with lots of HF stacks. I asked that question about a year ago when I was considering using them as verticals. Almost unanimously, the replies were that it would not b
/archives//html/Topband/2004-06/msg00024.html (8,749 bytes)

12. Re: Topband: Tophat? Does it have to be at the top? (score: 1)
Author: "Guy Olinger, K2AV" <olinger@bellsouth.net>
Date: Tue, 8 Jun 2004 20:05:01 -0400
I agree with Earl. Much of the difference in opinion on this subject has to do with what is really a fairly complex situation. It is convenient if a whole category of proposed construction is defined
/archives//html/Topband/2004-06/msg00025.html (9,540 bytes)

13. Re: Topband: Tophat? Does it have to be at the top? (score: 1)
Author: "Ford Peterson" <ford@cmgate.com>
Date: Tue, 8 Jun 2004 19:19:07 -0500
My 42' tower and SteppIR 3 element beam at 45' are shunt fed at the thrust bearing. A single 120' horizontal loading wire is also attached to the thrust bearing plate. Very clearly, tuning the elemen
/archives//html/Topband/2004-06/msg00026.html (9,349 bytes)

14. Re: Topband: Tophat? Does it have to be at the top? (score: 1)
Author: "W5PR" <W5PR@swbell.net>
Date: Wed, 9 Jun 2004 06:35:14 -0500
The HIGHER the beam is on the tower, the more top loading it (the same size beam) will provide. Chuck W5PR _______________________________________________ Topband mailing list Topband@contesting.com
/archives//html/Topband/2004-06/msg00027.html (10,004 bytes)

15. Re: Topband: Tophat? Does it have to be at the top? (score: 1)
Author: Jon Zaimes AA1K <jz73@verizon.net>
Date: Wed, 09 Jun 2004 13:31:44 -0400
I haven't modeled, but in two actual cases -- one with 70 foot of Rohn 25, the other with 100 feet -- I had a 204BA on the mast a few inches above the tower. On the 70-footer I added a Wilson 4-el 15
/archives//html/Topband/2004-06/msg00029.html (10,258 bytes)

16. Re: Topband: Tophat? Does it have to be at the top? (score: 1)
Author: Peter Sears <w5ps@airmail.net>
Date: Wed, 09 Jun 2004 22:13:20 -0500
Back 15yrs ago when I first installed my 130' rotating tower I first put up a 4 element 20M beam at 60'. I installed a shunt feed 2' away from the tower and the tap at 58'. This tuned very easily wit
/archives//html/Topband/2004-06/msg00031.html (11,622 bytes)

17. Topband: Tophat? Does it have to be at the top? (score: 1)
Author: "George Stewart (VK5ALS)" <ggstew@bigpond.net.au>
Date: Thu, 10 Jun 2004 16:21:32 +0930
Hi Topbanders, While we are milking this thread for what it is worth I would like to throw in a closely related question I have been sitting on for a while. Given that in a simple situation where one
/archives//html/Topband/2004-06/msg00032.html (7,878 bytes)

18. Re: Topband: Tophat? Does it have to be at the top? (score: 1)
Author: Earl W Cunningham <k6se@juno.com>
Date: Wed, 9 Jun 2004 23:59:33 -0700
"I haven't modeled, but in two actual cases -- one with 70 foot of Rohn 25, the other with 100 feet -- I had a 204BA on the mast a few inches above the tower. On the 70-footer I added a Wilson 4-el 1
/archives//html/Topband/2004-06/msg00033.html (9,871 bytes)

19. Re: Topband: Tophat? Does it have to be at the top? (score: 1)
Author: "Tom Rauch" <w8ji@contesting.com>
Date: Thu, 10 Jun 2004 06:05:15 -0400
Watching frequency shift to determine current distribution is a great deal like the misplaced notion we can grab the jacket of coax and watch SWR shift to tell if we need a balun. Every Yagi would ap
/archives//html/Topband/2004-06/msg00034.html (10,260 bytes)

20. Re: Topband: Tophat? Does it have to be at the top? (score: 1)
Author: "Tom Rauch" <w8ji@contesting.com>
Date: Thu, 10 Jun 2004 08:12:10 -0400
diameter guy-wires declined at together. situation? the total The best thing to do is model it George. This is the type of thing models work well for, as opposed to radial system design (hi hi). Usi
/archives//html/Topband/2004-06/msg00035.html (9,590 bytes)


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