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1. Topband: Some experiments with a short beverage, not succeeding very well (score: 1)
Author: Mark Lunday <wd4elg@outlook.com>
Date: Tue, 30 Jun 2020 18:56:40 +0000
"Beverages just want to work" is what I have heard. Not having much luck with that here. I suspect operator/installation error. I did a lot of reading and I must be doing something wrong. * 250 feet
/archives//html/Topband/2020-06/msg00069.html (9,218 bytes)

2. Re: Topband: Some experiments with a short beverage, not succeeding very well (score: 1)
Author: Brad Rehm <bradrehm@gmail.com>
Date: Tue, 30 Jun 2020 14:04:18 -0500
Mark, I didn't see any mention of a preamp. Signals from a good Beverage are typically 20-30 dB below what you'd hear from a dipole or a vertical. Everything else you've done looks good. Keep it up!
/archives//html/Topband/2020-06/msg00070.html (10,300 bytes)

3. Re: Topband: Some experiments with a short beverage, not succeeding very well (score: 1)
Author: donovanf@starpower.net
Date: Tue, 30 Jun 2020 15:17:30 -0400 (EDT)
Hi Mark, I've built countless dozens of Beverages and its absolutely true that "Beverages just want to work." About the only situation where they do not work is over highly conductive soil such as sa
/archives//html/Topband/2020-06/msg00071.html (10,369 bytes)

4. Re: Topband: Some experiments with a short beverage, not succeeding very well (score: 1)
Author: Cecil <chacuff@cableone.net>
Date: Tue, 30 Jun 2020 14:12:20 -0500
Receive antennas are all about S/N ratio not signal strength. They will be significantly down but should be much quieter. Cecil K5DL Sent from my iPad _________________ Searchable Archives: http://ww
/archives//html/Topband/2020-06/msg00072.html (9,668 bytes)

5. Re: Topband: Some experiments with a short beverage, not succeeding very well (score: 1)
Author: "John Harden, D.M.D." <jhdmd@bellsouth.net>
Date: Tue, 30 Jun 2020 16:05:56 -0400
I have never had any luck with short beverages, EWE's, FLAGS, low dipoles, etc. Total waste of time. In 2010 I went to the Hi-Z 3, then the Hi-Z 4, and finally the Hi-Z 8. I hear stuff I have never h
/archives//html/Topband/2020-06/msg00073.html (10,746 bytes)

6. Re: Topband: Some experiments with a short beverage, not succeeding very well (score: 1)
Author: Artek Manuals <Manuals@ArtekManuals.com>
Date: Tue, 30 Jun 2020 16:59:44 -0400
Mark Tell us more about the transformer? My own experience is that core material and impedance matching at the frequency of interest often pays off. I have a 200' BOG (N-S) and a 460ft x 6ft Beverage
/archives//html/Topband/2020-06/msg00074.html (11,923 bytes)

7. Re: Topband: Some experiments with a short beverage, not succeeding very well (score: 1)
Author: donovanf@starpower.net
Date: Tue, 30 Jun 2020 17:53:53 -0400 (EDT)
Hi John, 250 feet isn't a short Beverage on 80 meters, it should perform superbly. In my -- now long ago -- professional life we built and operated phased arrays of up to 64 Beverages all the way up
/archives//html/Topband/2020-06/msg00075.html (12,118 bytes)

8. Re: Topband: Some experiments with a short beverage, not succeeding very well (score: 1)
Author: John Harden <jhdmd@bellsouth.net>
Date: Tue, 30 Jun 2020 22:19:59 +0000 (UTC)
Good evening Frank. Just got in from work. I was talking mainly about 160. Before 2019 I was a true alligator! 73, John, W4NU Get Outlook for iOS Hi John, 250 feet isn't a short Beverage on 80 meters
/archives//html/Topband/2020-06/msg00076.html (12,825 bytes)

9. Re: Topband: Some experiments with a short beverage, not succeeding very well (score: 1)
Author: Mail 10 <mail10@barefoothorse.com.au>
Date: Wed, 1 Jul 2020 11:27:43 +1000
I read somewhere that one test for a receiving antenna is to compare the received noise floor against no antenna, during the day with little atmospheric noise. There should be a *slight* lift in the
/archives//html/Topband/2020-06/msg00077.html (10,030 bytes)

10. Re: Topband: Some experiments with a short beverage, not succeeding very well (score: 1)
Author: Mark Lunday <wd4elg@outlook.com>
Date: Wed, 1 Jul 2020 01:58:22 +0000
Thanks everyone for the help and guidance. I am using the DX Engineering 9;1 transformer, brand new. I also tried the KD9SV BOG 4:1 transformer but it was even worse. I shall attempt to utilize a pre
/archives//html/Topband/2020-06/msg00078.html (9,046 bytes)

11. Re: Topband: Some experiments with a short beverage, not succeeding very well (score: 1)
Author: Jim Brown <jim@audiosystemsgroup.com>
Date: Tue, 30 Jun 2020 22:28:11 -0700
On 6/30/2020 6:27 PM, Mail 10 wrote: I read somewhere that one test for a receiving antenna is to compare the received noise floor against no antenna, during the day with little atmospheric noise. Th
/archives//html/Topband/2020-07/msg00001.html (7,906 bytes)

12. Re: Topband: Some experiments with a short beverage, not succeeding very well (score: 1)
Author: Mike Waters <mikewate@gmail.com>
Date: Wed, 1 Jul 2020 12:43:23 -0500
Hi Mark, After following this thread, and assuming that your coax connectors etc. are properly installed, I strongly suspect that you need to improve your RF earth ground. Its resistance is likely to
/archives//html/Topband/2020-07/msg00007.html (9,295 bytes)

13. Re: Topband: Some experiments with a short beverage, not succeeding very well (score: 1)
Author: donovanf@starpower.net
Date: Wed, 1 Jul 2020 13:45:41 -0400 (EDT)
I'm hoping that Mark will share his VSWR measurements with us, otherwise he's asking for help but keeping us in the dark... 73 Frank W3LPL -- Original Message -- Hi Mark, After following this thread,
/archives//html/Topband/2020-07/msg00008.html (9,375 bytes)

14. Re: Topband: Some experiments with a short beverage, not succeeding very well (score: 1)
Author: Fred Moeves <fmoeves@twc.com>
Date: Wed, 1 Jul 2020 17:44:04 -0400
Mark, I'm no expert and relatively new to the Beverage antenna but have done lots of experimenting with them. My thoughts.... First don't give up short Beverages work just fine...you just work with w
/archives//html/Topband/2020-07/msg00009.html (11,447 bytes)

15. Re: Topband: Some experiments with a short beverage, not succeeding very well (score: 1)
Author: Mark Lunday <wd4elg@outlook.com>
Date: Wed, 1 Jul 2020 22:37:33 +0000
Team I have installed the new ground rod and I am using a pre-amp at the feed-point. I will measure the SWR over the weekend after work calms down. Mark Lunday, WD4ELG Greensboro, NC FM06be wd4elg@ar
/archives//html/Topband/2020-07/msg00010.html (8,151 bytes)

16. Re: Topband: Some experiments with a short beverage, not succeeding very well (score: 1)
Author: Mark Lunday <wd4elg@outlook.com>
Date: Thu, 2 Jul 2020 02:27:24 +0000
Mystery solved TDR mode on my AIM 4170 revealed problems with the coax that I did not know were there. All working good now, thanks everyone for the help! Mark Lunday, WD4ELG Greensboro, NC FM06be wd
/archives//html/Topband/2020-07/msg00012.html (8,399 bytes)

17. Re: Topband: Some experiments with a short beverage, not succeeding very well (score: 1)
Author: Mark Lunday <wd4elg@outlook.com>
Date: Sat, 4 Jul 2020 21:46:58 +0000
Update - with the issue resolved, the beverage does hear DX on 40 meters, and is quieter than the inverted L as expected. It is able to hear signals to NW and SW, which is also expected due to the sh
/archives//html/Topband/2020-07/msg00023.html (8,913 bytes)

18. Re: Topband: Some experiments with a short beverage, not succeeding very well (score: 1)
Author: donovanf@starpower.net
Date: Sat, 4 Jul 2020 19:05:36 -0400 (EDT)
Hi Mark, Its not correct to refer to a 250 foot Beverage operating on either 80 or 40 meters as a "short Beverage." That length is ideal for 40 meters and excellent for 80 meters. Only on 160 meters
/archives//html/Topband/2020-07/msg00024.html (9,613 bytes)


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