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1. Topband: Inverted L improvement question - Part 2 (score: 1)
Author: Todd Goins <tgoins@gmail.com>
Date: Fri, 28 Dec 2018 15:35:53 -0800
I originally started this thread and I want to once again thank everyone who provided input and advise both privately and on the reflector. So the 100' tall vertical with the 30' horizontal loading w
/archives//html/Topband/2018-12/msg00306.html (8,945 bytes)

2. Re: Topband: Inverted L improvement question - Part 2 (score: 1)
Author: Ralph Bellas <k9zo@hotmail.com>
Date: Fri, 28 Dec 2018 23:45:15 +0000
Two 100 x 3 ft rolls of chicken wire were added this fall. I have about 45 radials, good conductivity, clear view, and the sump pump dumps out nearby. It is quiet in the country but the beverages are
/archives//html/Topband/2018-12/msg00307.html (9,699 bytes)

3. Re: Topband: Inverted L improvement question - Part 2 (score: 1)
Author: Grant Saviers <grants2@pacbell.net>
Date: Fri, 28 Dec 2018 16:49:41 -0800
Modeling I've done shows it a bad idea to have in ground and elevated radials connected together, but that is not clear from what you described. Then with the elevated separate, moving the feedpoint
/archives//html/Topband/2018-12/msg00309.html (10,720 bytes)

4. Re: Topband: Inverted L improvement question - Part 2 (score: 1)
Author: Mike Waters <mikewate@gmail.com>
Date: Fri, 28 Dec 2018 19:10:57 -0600
Hello Grant, Your advice is spot-on! Elevated radials MUST NOT be connected to ground. Perhaps that's one of the reasons why Todd's inverted-L is working so poorly. Another important thing is to have
/archives//html/Topband/2018-12/msg00311.html (12,733 bytes)

5. Re: Topband: Inverted L improvement question - Part 2 (score: 1)
Author: Todd Goins <tgoins@gmail.com>
Date: Fri, 28 Dec 2018 17:34:12 -0800
Sorry, I wasn't completely clear in my post. The elevated radials are not connected to the buried radial field. They are two separate entities. Now the elevated radials do sit above or cross some the
/archives//html/Topband/2018-12/msg00314.html (8,370 bytes)

6. Re: Topband: Inverted L improvement question - Part 2 (score: 1)
Author: Mike Waters <mikewate@gmail.com>
Date: Fri, 28 Dec 2018 19:57:15 -0600
Hi Todd, I'll bet the farm (if I had one) that your air-core choke is ineffective. Take at look at http://www.karinya.net/g3txq/chokes to see what I mean. A very, very good common mode choke is the o
/archives//html/Topband/2018-12/msg00316.html (8,948 bytes)

7. Re: Topband: Inverted L improvement question - Part 2 (score: 1)
Author: Todd Goins <tgoins@gmail.com>
Date: Fri, 28 Dec 2018 18:30:40 -0800
Hi Mike, Oh, I would totally believe that the air-wound choke is ineffective at 160m. It just happens to be what I had available to use when I rigged up the elevated radials in the cold rain yesterda
/archives//html/Topband/2018-12/msg00317.html (9,588 bytes)

8. Re: Topband: Inverted L improvement question - Part 2 (score: 1)
Author: Todd Goins <tgoins@gmail.com>
Date: Fri, 28 Dec 2018 19:39:27 -0800
A person emailed me to ask if I could take SWR readings at the rig without a tuner. Since my antenna analyzer is non-op due to the AM station nearby. The feedline is about 140' of LMR-240. Here is th
/archives//html/Topband/2018-12/msg00318.html (15,539 bytes)

9. Re: Topband: Inverted L improvement question - Part 2 (score: 1)
Author: Peter Bertini <radioconnection@gmail.com>
Date: Fri, 28 Dec 2018 23:46:47 -0500
Those SWR readings seem to indicate a very large bandwidth, to the extent it might suggest that your ground resistance losses are swamping the antenna R radiation resistance. It would be nice to know
/archives//html/Topband/2018-12/msg00319.html (7,960 bytes)

10. Re: Topband: Inverted L improvement question - Part 2 (score: 1)
Author: Grant Saviers <grants2@pacbell.net>
Date: Sat, 29 Dec 2018 09:00:03 -0800
Problem #1. The swr indicates about a 140Khz plus < 2:1 bandwidth (2 * 1880-1810) which implies a high radial resistance. Are the elevated radials fully insulated from trees, not contacting foliage,
/archives//html/Topband/2018-12/msg00323.html (15,413 bytes)

11. Re: Topband: Inverted L improvement question - Part 2 (score: 1)
Author: Todd Goins <tgoins@gmail.com>
Date: Sat, 29 Dec 2018 13:31:46 -0800
Hello Grant, Thanks for the input. I've made a couple of modifications this morning. I can't make that choke today because I don't have the FT240-31 but I'll check out that design and look into order
/archives//html/Topband/2018-12/msg00325.html (11,508 bytes)

12. Re: Topband: Inverted L improvement question - Part 2 (score: 1)
Author: Mike Waters <mikewate@gmail.com>
Date: Sat, 29 Dec 2018 16:47:11 -0600
Exactly! You have a lot of loss in your ground (or something), Todd. Perhaps it's the lack of a proper feedline choke. 73, Mike www.w0btu.com _________________ Searchable Archives: http://www.contest
/archives//html/Topband/2018-12/msg00327.html (19,694 bytes)

13. Re: Topband: Inverted L improvement question - Part 2 (score: 1)
Author: "Brian Miller" <bdm556@bigpond.com>
Date: Sun, 30 Dec 2018 10:40:51 +1100
Hi Grant and Todd I suggest there is also potential for a 4th problem - mutual coupling between the vertical wire and supporting tree. Any such coupling would be smaller for the 43 ft vertical if it
/archives//html/Topband/2018-12/msg00330.html (9,409 bytes)

14. Re: Topband: Inverted L improvement question - Part 2 (score: 1)
Author: Rob Atkinson <ranchorobbo@gmail.com>
Date: Sun, 30 Dec 2018 08:51:51 -0600
Hmmm....you DID relocate or rebuild your ground system so it converges on a point below the bottom of the 100 foot tall wire right? I mean, you aren't using the 43 foot vert. ground system with the 1
/archives//html/Topband/2018-12/msg00332.html (9,202 bytes)

15. Re: Topband: Inverted L improvement question - Part 2 (score: 1)
Author: Todd Goins <tgoins@gmail.com>
Date: Sun, 30 Dec 2018 10:09:51 -0800
Hi Rob, You ask some good questions and make some interesting observations. Nope, it is the same radial system. I don't have a reasonable way (time/money/effort) to create a whole new 50-60 wire buri
/archives//html/Topband/2018-12/msg00334.html (11,701 bytes)

16. Re: Topband: Inverted L improvement question - Part 2 (score: 1)
Author: Peter Bertini <radioconnection@gmail.com>
Date: Sun, 30 Dec 2018 16:13:37 -0500
Todd If you are interested in experimenting, you could try a K2AV folded counterpoise under that inverted L. If installed as recommended, it will provide a decent counterpoise system. One advantage t
/archives//html/Topband/2018-12/msg00335.html (9,213 bytes)

17. Re: Topband: Inverted L improvement question - Part 2 (score: 1)
Author: "chet moore" <chetmoore@cox.net>
Date: Sun, 30 Dec 2018 20:35:03 -0500
Todd, Thanks for sharing. I've been following your post. I too wondered about sharing the radial field like you did. My situation is somewhat similar in that I feed a 90 foot tower which has a c31 at
/archives//html/Topband/2018-12/msg00342.html (16,709 bytes)

18. Re: Topband: Inverted L improvement question - Part 2 (score: 1)
Author: Guy Olinger K2AV <k2av.guy@gmail.com>
Date: Sun, 30 Dec 2018 23:31:30 -0500
Hi Chet, Before we start, a disclaimer: I still have my MP, maybe I'm a radio hoarder. I do have a 75A3 and a Johnson Ranger and Courier and an FT 101ZD. The only long used radios I don't still have
/archives//html/Topband/2018-12/msg00343.html (22,709 bytes)

19. Re: Topband: Inverted L improvement question - Part 2 (score: 1)
Author: David Olean <k1whs@metrocast.net>
Date: Mon, 31 Dec 2018 14:45:38 +0000
Hello Guy, a very interesting evaluation of the 1000MP.  Your diagnosis coincides with my observations with the K3. I did not own an FT-1000MP, but I was using my K3 for listening on the very crowded
/archives//html/Topband/2018-12/msg00344.html (23,786 bytes)

20. Re: Topband: Inverted L improvement question - Part 2 (score: 1)
Author: Todd Goins <tgoins@gmail.com>
Date: Mon, 31 Dec 2018 10:06:50 -0800
Thanks again everyone. I've read all your suggestions and advise and although I won't be able to make some of the more difficult (or impossible at my site) changes there are a few things I'm willing
/archives//html/Topband/2018-12/msg00347.html (12,497 bytes)


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