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1. Topband: 160 4 SQUARE (score: 1): Author: "k4pi" <k4pi@bellsouth.net>; Date: Thu, 15 Nov 2007 18:14:32 -0000; Is anyone using a 4 square system on 160 M with the phasing set up to allow 8 directions instead of the usual 4? 73 Mike K4PI _______________________________________________ Topband mailing list Topb; /archives//html/Topband/2007-11/msg00122.html (6,125 bytes)
2. Re: Topband: 160 4 SQUARE (score: 1): Author: "EP Swynar" <gswynar@durham.net>; Date: Thu, 15 Nov 2007 14:37:29 -0500; On 15th November, Mike wrote... "...Is anyone using a 4 square system on 160 M with the phasing set up to allow 8 directions instead of the usual 4?" ** I'd be curious to know how many (if any) subsc; /archives//html/Topband/2007-11/msg00126.html (7,177 bytes)
3. Topband: 160 4 square (score: 1): Author: "Greg" <n4cc@windstream.net>; Date: Sun, 27 Aug 2017 12:56:44 -0600; Question for the group... 90 degrees apart from the top of the tower. Antenna wire will be attached to the phillystran such that verticals will be dropped to create a 4 square. I will have as much ve; /archives//html/Topband/2017-08/msg00038.html (7,090 bytes)
4. Topband: 160 4 square (score: 1): Author: K1FZ-Bruce <k1fz@myfairpoint.net>; Date: Sun, 27 Aug 2017 17:46:32 -0400; Your tower may act as a reflector if ground at the base . If un-grounded,, then no problem. Could take many hours on the tower to work out problems. Its easier to spend the hours with a modeling prog; /archives//html/Topband/2017-08/msg00041.html (8,461 bytes)
5. Re: Topband: 160 4 square (score: 1): Author: GaryK9GS <garyk9gs@wi.rr.com>; Date: Sun, 27 Aug 2017 16:50:59 -0500; Take a look at the K3LR website. This is essentially what Tim does, only instead of a 4-square, his array is a 5 element parasitic array with three active elements. K3LR just gave a presentation on; /archives//html/Topband/2017-08/msg00042.html (7,846 bytes)
6. Topband: 160 4 square (score: 1): Author: "Greg" <n4cc@windstream.net>; Date: Sun, 27 Aug 2017 18:53:20 -0600; Many thanks to all who offered input and ideas. I'll let you know how things come out after we get the system together next month. 73, Greg-N4CC _________________ Topband Reflector Archives - http://; /archives//html/Topband/2017-08/msg00048.html (6,663 bytes)
7. Re: Topband: 160 4 square (score: 1): Author: "JC" <n4is@comcast.net>; Date: Sun, 27 Aug 2017 23:05:10 -0400; HI Greg You need to detune the tower and the 4 square will work fine. But if you want to have a good RX you need a Horizontal Waller Flag at 140ft or more. You can see the two webinars about Waller F; /archives//html/Topband/2017-08/msg00051.html (10,253 bytes)
8. Re: Topband: 160 4 square (score: 1): Author: Lee STRAHAN <k7tjr@msn.com>; Date: Mon, 28 Aug 2017 06:02:38 +0000; Hello All JC, Greg knows quite a bit about receiving on 160 meters as he has had a Hi-Z 8 element array for some years now. Actually he has done quite well with it. Especially when he was neighbors w; /archives//html/Topband/2017-08/msg00052.html (11,574 bytes)
9. Re: Topband: 160 4 square (score: 1): Author: "JC" <n4is@comcast.net>; Date: Mon, 28 Aug 2017 07:47:15 -0400; Hi Lee Good question, The HWF has a deep null on vertical signals, propagated noise like ground wave can be attenuated over 80 db. The tower on the center of the WF does have little effect adding noi; /archives//html/Topband/2017-08/msg00053.html (15,481 bytes)
10. Re: Topband: 160 4 square (score: 1): Author: Jorge Diez - CX6VM <cx6vm.jorge@gmail.com>; Date: Mon, 28 Aug 2017 08:46:56 -0300; Hello and here start the big problem. Seems detuning towers is not simple, and no comercial way to do that, and you need to be very smart to do it. Many people talking about detuning tower, then when; /archives//html/Topband/2017-08/msg00054.html (11,855 bytes)
11. Re: Topband: 160 4 square (score: 1): Author: Bob Kupps via Topband <topband@contesting.com>; Date: Mon, 28 Aug 2017 12:58:09 +0000 (UTC); Well I ordered one about half a year ago so if it ever comes I will be able to compare it directly with my HiZ 8 circle array and get a definitive answer. We have no local noise here only propagated; /archives//html/Topband/2017-08/msg00056.html (16,570 bytes)
12. Re: Topband: 160 4 square (score: 1): Author: Lee STRAHAN <k7tjr@msn.com>; Date: Mon, 28 Aug 2017 16:45:41 +0000; Good morning all, What I can tell you about the two antennas for 160 meter receiving is that as many have said before, you cannot have too many receiving antennas for 160 meters. Before Dale N4NN bec; /archives//html/Topband/2017-08/msg00061.html (10,496 bytes)
13. Re: Topband: 160 4 square (score: 1): Author: "JC" <n4is@comcast.net>; Date: Mon, 28 Aug 2017 16:50:54 -0400; Hi Lee I remember it very well, but my comparison with the 8 circle is compatible with the RDF, the WF has 11.5 db and the 8 circle can be close to 13 db RDF and it is a winner, that 1.5 db EDF does; /archives//html/Topband/2017-08/msg00067.html (12,921 bytes)
14. Topband: 160 4 SQUARE (score: 1): Author: "Mike Greenway" <K4PI@BELLSOUTH.NET>; Date: Mon, 28 Aug 2017 17:17:59 -0400; Greg, N4CC,, I have been using something similar to what you are describing for about 10 years. I have 140 ft of Rohn 25 with all Phillystrand guys. The 4 verticals are supported by nylon cords runni; /archives//html/Topband/2017-08/msg00070.html (8,088 bytes)
15. Re: Topband: 160 4 square (score: 1): Author: "John Harden, D.M.D" <jhdmd@bellsouth.net>; Date: Mon, 28 Aug 2017 18:50:38 -0400; I am fortunate in that I have a Hi-Z 8 and a Waller Flag on a 32 foot boom at 95 feet. I use them in Diversity Receive with K-3. The results has been excellent here in Atlanta using a 100 ft 45G shun; /archives//html/Topband/2017-08/msg00072.html (14,406 bytes)
16. Re: Topband: 160 4 SQUARE (score: 1): Author: Mike - W5JR <w5jr.lists@gmail.com>; Date: Mon, 28 Aug 2017 23:29:30 -0400; And I had a great time in the winter TBDXC a couple of years ago QRP using the antennas at Mike's 160 farm. The TX array works very good. tnx Mike / W5JR Alpharetta GA _________________ Topband Refle; /archives//html/Topband/2017-08/msg00074.html (8,742 bytes)

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