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1. [VHFcontesting] A question of altitude (score: 1)
Author: k4gun@comcast.net
Date: Thu, 06 Mar 2008 16:39:02 +0000
I'm getting closer to finishing my new rover set-up and I am being presented with yet another quandary. As I'm sure you all know, I'm doing a "limited rover" station. I have a tower section that will
/archives//html/VHFcontesting/2008-03/msg00002.html (7,881 bytes)

2. Re: [VHFcontesting] A question of altitude (score: 1)
Author: jcplatt1@mmm.com
Date: Thu, 6 Mar 2008 11:41:46 -0600
Hi Steve. Good question, one that we rovers ask a lot. 6m is different than the higher bands because is almost HF and because most 6m rover antennas are within a wavelength (or closer) to ground, thi
/archives//html/VHFcontesting/2008-03/msg00003.html (8,934 bytes)

3. Re: [VHFcontesting] A question of altitude (score: 1)
Author: k4gun@comcast.net
Date: Thu, 06 Mar 2008 18:12:27 +0000
As usual, I get great information from this reflector. I still don't know what I'm going to do, but at least now I have more specific information on which to base a decision. What will likely do is t
/archives//html/VHFcontesting/2008-03/msg00006.html (10,717 bytes)

4. Re: [VHFcontesting] A question of altitude (score: 1)
Author: "MICHAEL SAPP" <wa3tts@verizon.net>
Date: Thu, 06 Mar 2008 13:32:45 -0500
Hi Steve & Folks: IMHO there are times when a smaller antenna raised higher is more effective than a lower high-gain antenna when terrian obstructions are present out a few hundred wavelengths. For e
/archives//html/VHFcontesting/2008-03/msg00009.html (9,046 bytes)

5. Re: [VHFcontesting] A question of altitude (score: 1)
Author: Ev Tupis <w2ev@yahoo.com>
Date: Thu, 6 Mar 2008 10:55:14 -0800 (PST)
If using a mast adds too much complexity, remember that there are other ways to get an additional 3-6dB (or more) of power at the horizon. Use a power amplifier (with a pre-amp). :) It has been my ex
/archives//html/VHFcontesting/2008-03/msg00010.html (8,493 bytes)

6. Re: [VHFcontesting] A question of altitude (score: 1)
Author: k4gun@comcast.net
Date: Thu, 06 Mar 2008 19:42:57 +0000
I have one more follow up question to this. I'm not sure there is a simple answer, but I'll ask anyway. Where does an elevation measurement matter? This doesn't have to do with terrain issues, but wh
/archives//html/VHFcontesting/2008-03/msg00012.html (10,712 bytes)

7. Re: [VHFcontesting] A question of altitude (score: 1)
Author: jcplatt1@mmm.com
Date: Thu, 6 Mar 2008 14:42:59 -0600
<snip> For instance, several of the places from which I transmitted in the last contest were close to drops. Look at a bridge. While the antenna may be 13' above the road on which the truck is parked
/archives//html/VHFcontesting/2008-03/msg00013.html (10,484 bytes)

8. Re: [VHFcontesting] A question of altitude (score: 1)
Author: k4gun@comcast.net
Date: Thu, 06 Mar 2008 21:10:49 +0000
Ahh... I think I get it. So to make sure I have this, let me restate it. On level ground, a 5 degree angle of radiation would actually be measured about about 148 feet from the base of the antenna. h
/archives//html/VHFcontesting/2008-03/msg00014.html (12,753 bytes)

9. Re: [VHFcontesting] A question of altitude (score: 1)
Author: Bill Olson <callbill@hotmail.com>
Date: Thu, 6 Mar 2008 21:20:13 +0000
In real life, at K1WHS, I seem to remember having problem working rovers with low antennas (7-10ft) on 6M, and they nearly always had a drop off in front of them.. I guess what I'm saying is, over a,
/archives//html/VHFcontesting/2008-03/msg00015.html (14,153 bytes)

10. Re: [VHFcontesting] A question of altitude (score: 1)
Author: Dan Evans <dan.evans@insightbb.com>
Date: Thu, 06 Mar 2008 19:14:36 -0500
With antennas that low, I think the biggest influence is the vehicle and not the take off angle. It may be completely wrong, but I always pictured it as the vehicle in the near field coupling with th
/archives//html/VHFcontesting/2008-03/msg00017.html (9,691 bytes)

11. Re: [VHFcontesting] A question of altitude (score: 1)
Author: Nate Duehr <nate@natetech.com>
Date: Thu, 06 Mar 2008 18:31:35 -0700
Anecdotally, my dual W0KVA home-brew 6m square loops, one at 6' and one at 12' -- fed with a power divider -- have produced some of the best 6m contacts I've ever worked, even compared to many high t
/archives//html/VHFcontesting/2008-03/msg00018.html (10,466 bytes)

12. Re: [VHFcontesting] A question of altitude (score: 1)
Author: Fred Lass <felasstic@yahoo.com>
Date: Thu, 6 Mar 2008 17:33:30 -0800 (PST)
I have used YT to model take off angles on six meters for rovers. If the ground is sloping gently, the signal at the horizon goes up about 1 db for each 5' of mast height. The effect begins to tail o
/archives//html/VHFcontesting/2008-03/msg00019.html (13,109 bytes)

13. Re: [VHFcontesting] A question of altitude (score: 1)
Author: Tom Carney <tomc@carneysugai.com>
Date: Thu, 06 Mar 2008 17:34:01 -0800
I've had a somewhat similar problem with the vehicle being in the field of the 6M ant. When I first started roving, I mounted the 6M beam at the bottom of my "stack". This put it at only 10 ft above
/archives//html/VHFcontesting/2008-03/msg00020.html (10,081 bytes)

14. Re: [VHFcontesting] A question of altitude (score: 1)
Author: Fred Lass <felasstic@yahoo.com>
Date: Thu, 6 Mar 2008 17:38:35 -0800 (PST)
To know for sure you must create a path profile and use YT software to tell you the answer. In some cases the profile matters as much as a mile away. YT was written by N6BV and is distributed with th
/archives//html/VHFcontesting/2008-03/msg00021.html (9,253 bytes)

15. [VHFcontesting] A question of altitude (score: 1)
Author: James Duffey <JamesDuffey@comcast.net>
Date: Thu, 6 Mar 2008 19:52:28 -0700
Steve - This is a good question and one I have been struggling with as well. I am a new, 3 time rover, so we are in much the same boat. After some consideration, study, a little analysis, and convers
/archives//html/VHFcontesting/2008-03/msg00024.html (10,529 bytes)

16. Re: [VHFcontesting] A question of altitude (score: 1)
Author: "David Olean" <k1whs@metrocast.net>
Date: Fri, 07 Mar 2008 08:09:28 -0500
Hello Nate et al, RE the two loops at 6 and 12 ft, I think Bill K1DY was talking about dead band conditions. When there is Es or other like phenomena, all bets are off, and a low antenna can be quite
/archives//html/VHFcontesting/2008-03/msg00026.html (14,118 bytes)

17. Re: [VHFcontesting] A question of altitude (score: 1)
Author: Bill Olson <callbill@hotmail.com>
Date: Fri, 7 Mar 2008 18:25:41 +0000
Dave is right, I WAS talking about dead band conditions. It doesn't make much sense designing a rover station based on the "band opening up". But that DOES remind me. I remember a few years ago rovin
/archives//html/VHFcontesting/2008-03/msg00030.html (17,382 bytes)

18. Re: [VHFcontesting] A question of altitude (score: 1)
Author: Nate Duehr <nate@natetech.com>
Date: Fri, 07 Mar 2008 13:18:05 -0700
Great comments on the 6m rover antennas Dave. I waver from wanting to spend the time and effort to be on the lunatic fringe, and wanting to install a Barcolounger at home and a giant tower, and let s
/archives//html/VHFcontesting/2008-03/msg00031.html (11,480 bytes)

19. Re: [VHFcontesting] A question of altitude (score: 1)
Author: Nate Duehr <nate@natetech.com>
Date: Fri, 07 Mar 2008 13:22:17 -0700
You guys are making me wish I'd spent the $700 (I didn't have) on that pneumatic bumper mount mast -- some guy had it up on eBay a few weeks ago. I think it went to 30'. Did anyone else see that and
/archives//html/VHFcontesting/2008-03/msg00032.html (10,019 bytes)

20. Re: [VHFcontesting] A question of altitude (score: 1)
Author: k4gun@comcast.net
Date: Fri, 07 Mar 2008 20:43:36 +0000
I missed that auction. I did however, just order one of the Hy Gain ATM-65 masts. From the looks of it, I think it will be sturdy and rugged enough for roving use when nested inside my 5' tower secti
/archives//html/VHFcontesting/2008-03/msg00033.html (10,898 bytes)


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