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1. [TowerTalk] city council horror (score: 1): Author: w7ni@teleport.com (Stan Griffiths); Date: Thu, 2 Jul 1998 14:20:14 -0700 (PDT); When I learned about "ex post facto" concepts in high school about a hundred years ago, I learned that the establishment cannot pass a new law TODAY and prosecute you for violating it YESTERDAY. The; /archives//html/Towertalk/1998-07/msg00097.html (10,225 bytes)
2. [TowerTalk] city council horror (score: 1): Author: k4sb@mindspring.com (K4SB); Date: Thu, 02 Jul 1998 20:34:52 -0700; Well, I never have seen the word "grandfathering" in the Constitution either, but the Supreme Court rendered an opinion not more than 7 days ago which essentially said "you can't take action on the; /archives//html/Towertalk/1998-07/msg00099.html (8,060 bytes)
3. [TowerTalk] city council horror (score: 1): Author: K3AIR@aol.com (K3AIR@aol.com); Date: Fri, 3 Jul 1998 09:17:34 EDT; << > Whoa, Easy, big fellah. With that attitude you'd wind up with LESS than our When I learned about "ex post facto" concepts in high school about a hundred years ago, I learned that the establishme; /archives//html/Towertalk/1998-07/msg00116.html (10,971 bytes)
4. [TowerTalk] city council horror (score: 1): Author: w7ni@teleport.com (Stan Griffiths); Date: 11 Jul 1998 21:09:48 -0000; All I am trying to say is if they pass a law today that says all towers must have a building permit, as of now, the time the law went into effect, there is nothing retroactive about prosecuting you; /archives//html/Towertalk/1998-07/msg00347.html (9,349 bytes)
5. [TowerTalk] city council horror (score: 1): Author: wa2moe@doitnow.com (Stu Greene); Date: Sat, 11 Jul 1998 14:22:15 -0700; I think you better read the Fifth and Fourteenth Amendments to the Constitution. Once erected legally, no matter what a municipality does, the tower will not be illegal, assuming of course that it pr; /archives//html/Towertalk/1998-07/msg00348.html (8,190 bytes)
6. [TowerTalk] city council horror (score: 1): Author: davidc@bit-net.com (DavidC); Date: Sat, 11 Jul 1998 17:24:09 -0400; "Grandfathering" existing property rights is a tradition as old as this nation, and preceeded this nation in Europe (and other parts of the world). It would seem that any competent judge would insist; /archives//html/Towertalk/1998-07/msg00349.html (8,550 bytes)
7. [TowerTalk] city council horror (score: 1): Author: leewical@lava.net (LEE WICAL); Date: Sun, 12 Jul 1998 09:07:20 -0400; Isn't called "Grandfathering"? Lee -- FAQ on WWW: http://www.contesting.com/towertalkfaq.html Submissions: towertalk@contesting.com Administrative requests: towertalk-REQUEST@contesting.com Problems:; /archives//html/Towertalk/1998-07/msg00356.html (8,935 bytes)
8. [TowerTalk] city council horror (score: 1): Author: wa7fab@cdsnet.net (Van Sias); Date: Sun, 12 Jul 1998 12:24:04 +0100; Stu. You are absolutly correct. A city can certainly inact an ordinance with "look back" control and cities frequently do this. Stan, should talk to the local city attorney. A good example are the ma; /archives//html/Towertalk/1998-07/msg00358.html (10,173 bytes)
9. [TowerTalk] city council horror (score: 1): Author: wa2moe@doitnow.com (Stu Greene); Date: Sun, 12 Jul 1998 12:26:09 -0700; for want of another name, Lee, yes it is. 73 Stu -- FAQ on WWW: http://www.contesting.com/towertalkfaq.html Submissions: towertalk@contesting.com Administrative requests: towertalk-REQUEST@contesting; /archives//html/Towertalk/1998-07/msg00359.html (8,672 bytes)
10. [TowerTalk] city council horror (score: 1): Author: Brian.Harris@sv.sc.philips.com (Brian Harris); Date: Mon, 22 Jun 1998 00:38:26 -0700; Tower Lovers, Tomorrow night (Monday 23rd) there will be a city council meeting in Plano, Texas. The start time is unknown but is usually around 5 or 5:30. Item Q on the agenda is a proposal to place; /archives//html/Towertalk/1998-06/msg00761.html (8,878 bytes)
11. [TowerTalk] city council horror (score: 1): Author: k4oj@ij.net (Jim White, K4OJ); Date: Tue, 23 Jun 1998 07:18:16 -0400; Having gone through something similar, I encourage any ham able to attend this "event" to do so. Many hams in the Tampa area I never even knew existed showed up (close to 100) when it was our day wit; /archives//html/Towertalk/1998-06/msg00766.html (8,675 bytes)
12. [TowerTalk] city council horror (score: 1): Author: dlambert@spd.dsccc.com (David Lambert); Date: Tue, 23 Jun 1998 14:10:29 -0500; For those who are interested... the city of Plano DID pass a 6 month moratorium on the issuance of amateur radio tower permits. This is so they can "review" the situation. The are planning to have so; /archives//html/Towertalk/1998-06/msg00800.html (10,195 bytes)
13. [TowerTalk] city council horror (score: 1): Author: TOMK5RC@aol.com (TOMK5RC@aol.com); Date: Tue, 23 Jun 1998 16:31:48 EDT; << For those who are interested... the city of Plano DID pass a 6 month moratorium on the issuance of amateur radio tower permits. This is so they can "review" the situation. The are planning to have; /archives//html/Towertalk/1998-06/msg00801.html (9,235 bytes)
14. [TowerTalk] city council horror (score: 1): Author: csus04@lmpsil02.comm.mot.com (Raymond Dave-CSUS04); Date: Tue, 23 Jun 1998 18:18:17 -0500; Don't assume that because you live in the country you're immune from such probems. I just built a house 2 years ago on 30 acres about 30 miles west of Des Moines. . . it's very rural here. The county; /archives//html/Towertalk/1998-06/msg00804.html (13,875 bytes)
15. [TowerTalk] city council horror (score: 1): Author: shurst@magiclink.com (Steve Hurst); Date: Tue, 23 Jun 1998 18:51:31 -0600; Ray , I'm afraid that if it were me , I'd have told THEM to "Take A Hike" !! I sure as heck would'nt have paid them any money for a "permit" on something that I already installed years ago !! Plus wa; /archives//html/Towertalk/1998-06/msg00806.html (16,681 bytes)
16. [TowerTalk] city council horror (score: 1): Author: rhodesj@elwood.pionet.net (Jim Rhodes KC0XU); Date: Tue, 23 Jun 1998 20:16:51 -0500; At least they can't modify the covenants in your deed! Jim Rhodes KC0XU rhodesj@pionet.net -- FAQ on WWW: http://www.contesting.com/towertalkfaq.html Submissions: towertalk@contesting.com Administrat; /archives//html/Towertalk/1998-06/msg00808.html (9,048 bytes)
17. [TowerTalk] city council horror (score: 1): Author: w7why@mail.coos.or.us (Tom Osborne); Date: Wed, 24 Jun 1998 01:25:52 -0700; I think 62 bucks is pretty cheap insurance to keep people happy. You start telling peoplt to "take a hike" and they will start to find all kinds of ways to hassle you. "Pays the man" Tom W7WHY -- FAQ; /archives//html/Towertalk/1998-06/msg00809.html (8,968 bytes)
18. [TowerTalk] city council horror (score: 1): Author: n2nt@hiway1.exit109.com (Andy Blank); Date: Wed, 24 Jun 1998 01:32:49 -0400; deer Hi Tom... I can't help but wonder what Ole Ben Cartright and the boys of the Ponderosa would say about this! I'm sure that if they were there today, they would form a posse and take care of the; /archives//html/Towertalk/1998-06/msg00810.html (9,981 bytes)
19. [TowerTalk] city council horror (score: 1): Author: K7LXC@aol.com (K7LXC@aol.com); Date: Tue, 23 Jun 1998 21:43:14 EDT; Whoa, Easy, big fellah. With that attitude you'd wind up with LESS than zero. THEY hold all the cards. THEY tell you what is possible. THEY levy fines. THEY issue building permits. YOU got squat. Che; /archives//html/Towertalk/1998-06/msg00811.html (10,162 bytes)
20. [TowerTalk] city council horror (score: 1): Author: wa2moe@doitnow.com (Stu Greene); Date: Tue, 23 Jun 1998 18:51:41 -0700; -- what do you think the good folks in Tombstone would have done >g< 73 Stu Stu Greene WA2MOE 7537 North 28th Avenue Phoenix, Arizona 85051 USA E-Mail: wa2moe@doitnow.com Phone (602)864-1990 -- FAQ o; /archives//html/Towertalk/1998-06/msg00812.html (9,729 bytes)

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