- 21. Re: [TowerTalk] Tram rope (score: 1)
- Author: k1vr@juno.com
- Date: Tue, 19 Dec 2006 13:29:59 -0500
- On Tue, 19 Dec 2006 10:20:55 -0800 Bill Turner <dezrat@copper.net> writes: EHS will go around a thimble. It can be held in place by clamps or a dead end. Think about leaving in a turnbuckle, to tight
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- 22. Re: [TowerTalk] Tram rope (score: 1)
- Author: "Dick Green WC1M" <wc1m@msn.com>
- Date: Tue, 19 Dec 2006 15:19:41 -0500
- Eric, Thanks for the story and the numbers. I've seen conflicting data on web for the safe WLL (working load limit) for my 7/16" 3-strand nylon rope. While the breaking strength is consistently repor
- /archives//html/Towertalk/2006-12/msg00711.html (13,661 bytes)
- 23. Re: [TowerTalk] Tram rope (score: 1)
- Author: Eric Scace K3NA <eric@k3na.org>
- Date: Tue, 19 Dec 2006 15:38:12 -0500
- Hard to draw a diagram on a text-oriented reflector. If you read this message with a fixed width font it should work reasonably well. First, the tram line in this diagram is like the gondola lift you
- /archives//html/Towertalk/2006-12/msg00712.html (12,436 bytes)
- 24. Re: [TowerTalk] Tram rope (score: 1)
- Author: Eric Scace K3NA <eric@k3na.org>
- Date: Tue, 19 Dec 2006 15:51:29 -0500
- Dick -- Comments marked within your text. -- Eric on 06 Dec 19 Tue 15:19 Dick Green WC1M said the following: The winch should be relocated to a different spot off to the side, away from the tower bas
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- 25. Re: [TowerTalk] Tram rope (score: 1)
- Author: "Dick Green WC1M" <wc1m@msn.com>
- Date: Tue, 19 Dec 2006 18:14:21 -0500
- Well, that's quite a difference from 738 lbs and 602 lbs, respectively! I'd hardly call these "enormous" forces, as some have said. Perhaps 3-strand 7/16" nylon rope would have been OK after all. St
- /archives//html/Towertalk/2006-12/msg00720.html (10,889 bytes)
- 26. Re: [TowerTalk] Tram rope (score: 1)
- Author: "Dick Green WC1M" <wc1m@msn.com>
- Date: Tue, 19 Dec 2006 18:34:47 -0500
- I have an electric capstan winch (the TowerJack model) bolted to the tower at the base. The capstan requires the operator to pull the excess rope off the drum in pretty much a straight line from the
- /archives//html/Towertalk/2006-12/msg00721.html (10,575 bytes)
- 27. [TowerTalk] Tram rope (score: 1)
- Author: "Larry Schimelpfenig" <k7sv@adelphia.net>
- Date: Tue, 19 Dec 2006 18:36:52 -0500
- lbs of force to get the tram line high enough and straight enough for the antenna to clear the top guys. As I was cranking the come-along(s) to raise the tram line, that was the force that most conc
- /archives//html/Towertalk/2006-12/msg00722.html (8,200 bytes)
- 28. Re: [TowerTalk] Tram rope (score: 1)
- Author: Eric Scace K3NA <eric@k3na.org>
- Date: Tue, 19 Dec 2006 19:42:56 -0500
- Hi Dick -- First, definitions... A capstan is not a winch. A "capstan", as you have, contains a drum around which several turns of rope are laid. As the drum rotates, new turns are added to the drum
- /archives//html/Towertalk/2006-12/msg00724.html (13,808 bytes)
- 29. Re: [TowerTalk] Tram rope (score: 1)
- Author: Jim Lux <jimlux@earthlink.net>
- Date: Tue, 19 Dec 2006 16:49:23 -0800
- That's more what I would think. 700 lbs just seemed a bit too high. Got it... _______________________________________________ _______________________________________________ TowerTalk mailing list To
- /archives//html/Towertalk/2006-12/msg00725.html (10,561 bytes)
- 30. Re: [TowerTalk] Tram rope (score: 1)
- Author: Eric Scace K3NA <eric@k3na.org>
- Date: Tue, 19 Dec 2006 19:52:37 -0500
- The pre-tension force can be checked with a Loos guage. You're correct that it is significant. If someone yanks 50 lb on a tag line to a balanced antenna, that's a lot. Tag line forces are likely an
- /archives//html/Towertalk/2006-12/msg00726.html (12,465 bytes)
- 31. Re: [TowerTalk] Tram rope (score: 1)
- Author: "K8RI on TowerTalk" <K8RI-on-TowerTalk@tm.net>
- Date: Tue, 19 Dec 2006 20:26:45 -0500
- Another alternative is to contain the cable in heavy wall PVC conduit for 20 to 30 feet prior to the capstan. Properly used the capstan is a great device. Imporperly, or carelessly used it likes to
- /archives//html/Towertalk/2006-12/msg00729.html (11,031 bytes)
- 32. Re: [TowerTalk] Tram rope (score: 1)
- Author: "Dick Green WC1M" <wc1m@msn.com>
- Date: Tue, 19 Dec 2006 21:38:40 -0500
- Perhaps, but Tower Jack calls it a "capstan electric winch". The manufacturer, My-Te Products, calls it a "Capstan Winch-Hoist". In fact, the web is full of references to capstan winches. Seems most
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- 33. Re: [TowerTalk] Tram rope (score: 1)
- Author: "Dick Green WC1M" <wc1m@msn.com>
- Date: Tue, 19 Dec 2006 22:04:30 -0500
- Yikes! Thanks for the warning. I used a plastic-sheaved pulley to tram the 40-2CD on the nylon rope tram line. In fact, I got it from our esteemed moderator's website (Steve, if you agree with Eric,
- /archives//html/Towertalk/2006-12/msg00734.html (12,804 bytes)
- 34. Re: [TowerTalk] Tram rope (score: 1)
- Author: Eric Scace K3NA <eric@k3na.org>
- Date: Tue, 19 Dec 2006 23:24:50 -0500
- -- Original Message -- Subject: Re: [TowerTalk] Tram rope Date: Tue, 19 Dec 2006 23:24:13 -0500 From: Eric Scace K3NA <eric@k3na.org> Reply-To: eric@k3na.org To: wc1m@msn.com References: <BAY133-DAV5
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- 35. Re: [TowerTalk] Tram rope (score: 1)
- Author: Eric Scace K3NA <eric@k3na.org>
- Date: Tue, 19 Dec 2006 23:50:11 -0500
- Dick -- Addressing your questions (to the best of my limited knowledge): A snatch block is a pulley (block) whose frame opens so that the rope can be laid into the block; i.e., one does not have to t
- /archives//html/Towertalk/2006-12/msg00739.html (13,530 bytes)
- 36. Re: [TowerTalk] Tram rope (score: 1)
- Author: Cqtestk4xs@aol.com
- Date: Wed, 20 Dec 2006 00:13:32 EST
- -- Sheave material: For your one-time weekend installation with 100 lb riding on the tram, I wouldn't worry about the aluminum sheave. But, for your next investment, get a material as hard or harder
- /archives//html/Towertalk/2006-12/msg00740.html (8,049 bytes)
- 37. Re: [TowerTalk] Tram rope (score: 1)
- Author: K7LXC@aol.com
- Date: Wed, 20 Dec 2006 04:57:24 EST
- the end that will connect to the tower? Seems to me a guy grip would be best, but I want to make sure it can be used on non-EHS cable. You can't use a grip because it's too long and will interfere wi
- /archives//html/Towertalk/2006-12/msg00741.html (9,299 bytes)
- 38. Re: [TowerTalk] Tram rope (score: 1)
- Author: "KC4HW" <jimjohnson@alaweb.com>
- Date: Wed, 20 Dec 2006 07:03:59 -0600
- Althought the appropriate grip for phillystran is galvanized... Jim/KC4HW http://www.AlabamaContestGroup http://www.AlabamaQSOParty.org (June 2nd and 3rd, 2007) ______________________________________
- /archives//html/Towertalk/2006-12/msg00745.html (8,773 bytes)
- 39. Re: [TowerTalk] Tram rope (score: 1)
- Author: Steve Maki <steve@oakcom.com>
- Date: Wed, 20 Dec 2006 09:33:31 -0500
- This all depends on what rope you use, and what you are using to tension the tram. If you have a stretchy piece of nylon and a ratchet puller with 6' of pull, yes, it's a problem. If you have a good
- /archives//html/Towertalk/2006-12/msg00746.html (7,942 bytes)
- 40. Re: [TowerTalk] Tram rope (score: 1)
- Author: K7LXC@aol.com
- Date: Wed, 20 Dec 2006 10:36:41 EST
- blocks, etc... Nope! Tnx for the informative info and keep it coming. Cheers, Steve K7LXC _______________________________________________ _______________________________________________ TowerTalk mai
- /archives//html/Towertalk/2006-12/msg00748.html (7,900 bytes)
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