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1. Topband: Shortend Vertical model questions (score: 1)
Author: Tony Reynolds" <kb8jvh@reydata.com (Tony Reynolds)
Date: Sun, 10 Feb 2002 12:29:41 -0500
Hi, and thanks for reading. I'm working on modeling a shortend vertical for 160 I want to build. The model can be downloaded from: http://www.reydata.com/160kb8jvh.ez if you wish to take a look. I'm
/archives//html/Topband/2002-02/msg00034.html (8,808 bytes)

2. Topband: Shortend Vertical model questions (score: 1)
Author: W8JI@contesting.com (Tom Rauch)
Date: Sun, 10 Feb 2002 23:56:17 -0500
You ALWAYS want to use some sort of "hat" at the top of a vertical. If you make the capacitance of the hat large compared to the distributed capacitance in the vertical, the current will be uniform
/archives//html/Topband/2002-02/msg00038.html (9,107 bytes)

3. Topband: Shortend Vertical model questions (score: 1)
Author: k9ay@k9ay.com (K9AY)
Date: Mon, 11 Feb 2002 16:42:53 +0000
Tony Tom W8JI's comments are good, and my 2 cents is that your modeling is "in the ballpark" concerning bandwidth, feedpoint Z and increased loading inductance as it is placed higher on the structure
/archives//html/Topband/2002-02/msg00041.html (8,993 bytes)

4. Topband: Shortend Vertical model questions (score: 1)
Author: n6wg@earthlink.net (Bob Tellefsen)
Date: Mon, 11 Feb 2002 09:41:42 -0800
Tony I'll coat-tail on Tom's comments. I've gone through somewhat the same exercise you are. I now use a vertical 40 ft tall with a cage structure. That is, the vertical section is three #17 wires in
/archives//html/Topband/2002-02/msg00042.html (9,773 bytes)

5. Topband: Shortend Vertical model questions (score: 1)
Author: Tony Reynolds" <kb8jvh@reydata.com (Tony Reynolds)
Date: Mon, 11 Feb 2002 18:11:31 -0500
Wow!!!! What a group of knowledgeable folks. I thank each and everyone of you for your input. I certainly have learned alot about verticals. It's back to the keyboard for more design work. I've got 6
/archives//html/Topband/2002-02/msg00044.html (8,672 bytes)

6. Topband: Shortend Vertical model questions (score: 1)
Author: W8JI@contesting.com (Tom Rauch)
Date: Tue, 12 Feb 2002 07:57:19 -0500
Hi Tony, Most of the bandwidth in a loaded system (like a short vertical) comes from keeping reactance low, so system Q is low. Remember in a series resonant circuit, less reactance means lower Q. (
/archives//html/Topband/2002-02/msg00048.html (11,453 bytes)

7. Topband: Shortend Vertical model questions (score: 1)
Author: kb8jvh@reydata.com (Tony Reynolds)
Date: Tue, 12 Feb 2002 17:28:30 +0000
Hi Tom, Very good info! I had already modeled a thicker vertical element and was surprised at how little difference it made. The series resonate theory is coming back, to many years out of school. If
/archives//html/Topband/2002-02/msg00051.html (9,004 bytes)

8. Topband: Shortend Vertical model questions (score: 1)
Author: aa4nu@ix.netcom.com (Billy Cox)
Date: Tue, 12 Feb 2002 12:40:00 -0600
Interesting thread ... (and I AM a supporter of modeling) Yet, isn't there a "watch out for" when using large differences of conductor diameters ? (like a 6" vertical and #14 top loading as to the r
/archives//html/Topband/2002-02/msg00052.html (8,730 bytes)

9. Topband: Shortend Vertical model questions (score: 1)
Author: K9AY" <k9ay@k9ay.com (K9AY)
Date: Tue, 12 Feb 2002 17:15:37 -0500
Yes, this is a situation to avoid. For a short vertical like the one under discussion, the easiest way to avoid the problem is to model the larger vertical section using 3 or 4 wires the same size a
/archives//html/Topband/2002-02/msg00054.html (9,042 bytes)

10. Topband: Shortend Vertical model questions (score: 1)
Author: W8JI@contesting.com (Tom Rauch)
Date: Tue, 12 Feb 2002 19:28:55 -0500
Yep, that's the main reason Roy included average gain in the windows version, so you could watch for errors. You do have to carefully look for weird results. Turns out average gain works especially
/archives//html/Topband/2002-02/msg00057.html (9,648 bytes)

11. Topband: Shortend Vertical model questions (score: 1)
Author: na4m@arrl.net (Phil Duff)
Date: Wed, 13 Feb 2002 01:19:32 +0000
There was an article some years ago in QST I believe that gave some efficiency numbers of top hat loaded low band verticals with different top hat loading configurations. I seem to recall that a coup
/archives//html/Topband/2002-02/msg00058.html (10,067 bytes)

12. Topband: Shortend Vertical model questions (score: 1)
Author: 00tlzivney@bsu.edu (Zivney, Terry L.)
Date: Wed, 13 Feb 2002 16:11:26 +0000
The reduction in efficiency is a direct result of the reduction in radiation resistance due to the sloping top hat wires. With lossless ground, there is no reduction in efficiency. I have an inverted
/archives//html/Topband/2002-02/msg00066.html (8,735 bytes)

13. Topband: Shortend Vertical model questions (score: 1)
Author: jerry@rchco.com (Jerry Heron)
Date: Wed, 13 Feb 2002 11:22:49 -0800
Does your wire hat assume the 4 wires are connected with horizontal wires? Changing the feed and it would seemingly be a good 80M vertical? jerry k7xx
/archives//html/Topband/2002-02/msg00070.html (8,536 bytes)

14. Topband: Shortend Vertical model questions (score: 1)
Author: NX4D@mpinet.net (Doug Waller)
Date: Wed, 13 Feb 2002 17:03:46 -0500
Hi Phil.........Avoid the interfering waves loss of sloping topload wires by adding a topload above your beam. I added a 20 ft aluminum pipe with 80 ft of copper wire in series & zig-zagged the wire
/archives//html/Topband/2002-02/msg00072.html (8,789 bytes)

15. Topband: Shortend Vertical model questions (score: 1)
Author: Tony Reynolds" <kb8jvh@reydata.com (Tony Reynolds)
Date: Wed, 13 Feb 2002 18:22:41 -0500
Hi Jerry, 2 new models I built can be downloaded from: http://www.reydata.com/160jvhhorzhat.ez http://www.reydata.com/160jvhslopehat.ez Both are of a 48 foot tall vertical element resonated with 4- 5
/archives//html/Topband/2002-02/msg00074.html (10,385 bytes)

16. Topband: Shortend Vertical model questions (score: 1)
Author: Tony Reynolds" <kb8jvh@reydata.com (Tony Reynolds)
Date: Wed, 13 Feb 2002 18:37:24 -0500
Tony
/archives//html/Topband/2002-02/msg00075.html (8,012 bytes)

17. Topband: Shortend Vertical model questions (score: 1)
Author: W8JI@contesting.com (Tom Rauch)
Date: Thu, 14 Feb 2002 10:38:04 -0500
No, although it would be much better if the outer ends were connected...especially if the wires had to slope down. That would allow use of shorter wires in the tophat. It should also make a good 80
/archives//html/Topband/2002-02/msg00082.html (8,769 bytes)


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