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81. Re: Topband: 5/8 wavelength vertical is mo betta than shorterversions??, (score: 1)
Author: "Richard Fry" <rfry@adams.net>
Date: Thu, 26 Sep 2013 10:53:28 -0500
We were shocked to find that the existing 1/4 wl performed better than the much taller Vertical. The link below compares the elevation patterns of monopoles ranging from a 1/4-wave to 5/8-wave in hei
/archives//html/Topband/2013-09/msg00344.html (7,909 bytes)

82. Topband: 5/8 wavelength vertical is mo betta than shorterversions??, (score: 1)
Author: "Richard Fry" <rfry@adams.net>
Date: Thu, 26 Sep 2013 12:19:28 -0500
BC stations tried 5/8 wavelength antennas to maximize their groundwave coverage. Unfortunately, the high angle lobe produced a skywave that caused severe interference fading at night out in their des
/archives//html/Topband/2013-09/msg00348.html (7,546 bytes)

83. Topband: 5/8 wavelength vertical is mo betta than shorter versions?? (score: 1)
Author: "Richard Fry" <rfry@adams.net>
Date: Fri, 27 Sep 2013 18:26:43 -0500
The approximate 3 dB improvement of the radiated field of a 5/8-wave monopole compared to a 1/4-wave monopole refer only to the maximum fields they radiate, NOT to the fields they radiate at __all__
/archives//html/Topband/2013-09/msg00352.html (9,924 bytes)

84. Re: Topband: 5/8 wavelength vertical is mo betta than shorter versions?? (score: 1)
Author: "Richard Fry" <rfry@adams.net>
Date: Sat, 28 Sep 2013 05:33:09 -0500
??? ______________ Note that for 1 kW of applied power, the maximum inverse distance field 1 mile from a 5/8-wave vertical is 275 mV/m compared to 195 mV/m from a 1/4-wave vertical. The difference is
/archives//html/Topband/2013-09/msg00356.html (9,471 bytes)

85. Topband: 5/8 wavelength vertical is mo betta than shorter versions?? (score: 1)
Author: "Richard Fry" <rfry@adams.net>
Date: Sat, 28 Sep 2013 14:59:21 -0500
Here are a couple of reposts of mine on this subject. http://s24.postimg.org/6nchfpt1h/NEC_FF_vs_NF_Calcs.jpg 1. The NEC far-field pattern for 0.1 km linked abovew shows a maximum field intensity of
/archives//html/Topband/2013-09/msg00359.html (12,287 bytes)

86. Re: Topband: 5/8 wavelength vertical is mo betta than shorter versions?? (score: 1)
Author: "Richard Fry" <rfry@adams.net>
Date: Tue, 1 Oct 2013 05:38:47 -0500
The radiation toward an elevation angle of 5 degrees shown in the surface wave plot continues in essentially a straight line, to reach the ionosphere." I'm still puzzled by these statements. Its clea
/archives//html/Topband/2013-10/msg00000.html (8,947 bytes)

87. Topband: Feeding a Base Insulated Tower (score: 1)
Author: "Richard Fry" <rfry@adams.net>
Date: Thu, 16 Jan 2014 18:04:15 -0600
Most, as in nearly all of the licensed AM broadcast stations in the U.S. use all three of the devices listed below (together) to reduce the probability of lightning damage to their transmit systems w
/archives//html/Topband/2014-01/msg00126.html (8,087 bytes)

88. Topband: Anyone purchased the ARRL book on Short Antennas for160??? (score: 1)
Author: "Richard Fry" <rfry@adams.net>
Date: Wed, 22 Jan 2014 07:18:49 -0600
C. Cunningham wrote: If you get up to 4 symmetrical elevated radials there's not much to be gained by adding more. There's been a lot of work done in the broadcast industry using elevated radials to
/archives//html/Topband/2014-01/msg00185.html (11,418 bytes)

89. Re: Topband: Anyone purchased the ARRL book on Short Antennas for160??? (score: 1)
Author: "Richard Fry" <rfry@adams.net>
Date: Wed, 22 Jan 2014 12:40:50 -0600
From the text of that paper, it appears that the four horizontal radials are attached to the monopole by insulated supports at 4.9-m elevation points above the earth, and terminate there. The coax ce
/archives//html/Topband/2014-01/msg00189.html (9,712 bytes)

90. Re: Topband: Anyone purchased the ARRL book on Short Antennas for160??? (score: 1)
Author: "Richard Fry" <rfry@adams.net>
Date: Wed, 22 Jan 2014 13:22:45 -0600
Guy Olinger wrote (responding to a quote from me that he included): "Such characteristics would apply to the use of elevated radial systems by ham radio operators as well as they do for AM broadcast
/archives//html/Topband/2014-01/msg00191.html (8,376 bytes)

91. Re: Topband: Anyone purchased the ARRL book on Short Antennas for160??? (score: 1)
Author: "Richard Fry" <rfry@adams.net>
Date: Thu, 23 Jan 2014 09:12:24 -0600
The NEC4.2 analysis linked below does not support the statements in the above quote. This analysis compares two 1/4-wave monopole systems over real earth of conductivity 1 mS/m, d.c. 5 -- which proba
/archives//html/Topband/2014-01/msg00202.html (10,203 bytes)

92. Re: Topband: Anyone purchased the ARRL book on Short Antennas for160??? (score: 1)
Author: "Richard Fry" <rfry@adams.net>
Date: Thu, 23 Jan 2014 19:00:33 -0600
Guy Olinger posted: NEC 4.x ground calculation is *tuned* for the *money* paradigm, the commercial MF BC paradigm. It underestimates ground loss where radials would not be accepted as kosher by the F
/archives//html/Topband/2014-01/msg00211.html (8,918 bytes)

93. Re: Topband: Anyone purchased the ARRL book on Short Antennas for160??? (score: 1)
Author: "Richard Fry" <rfry@adams.net>
Date: Fri, 24 Jan 2014 04:52:25 -0600
A response to David Raymond's questions on elevated monopole systems was posted to the listserver on Jan 22, 2014 (link below). http://lists.contesting.com/archives//html/Topband/2014-01/msg00189.htm
/archives//html/Topband/2014-01/msg00221.html (8,510 bytes)

94. Re: Topband: Anyone purchased the ARRL book on Short Antennas for160??? (score: 1)
Author: "Richard Fry" <rfry@adams.net>
Date: Fri, 24 Jan 2014 06:07:03 -0600
The text of my post first including the URL for my NEC study (link below) stated that there was about 0.5 dB difference between them because I hadn't taken the time to trim the monopoles heights slig
/archives//html/Topband/2014-01/msg00222.html (11,989 bytes)

95. Re: Topband: Anyone purchased the ARRL book on Short Antennas for160??? (score: 1)
Author: "Richard Fry" <rfry@adams.net>
Date: Fri, 24 Jan 2014 18:26:24 -0600
You posted that you have NEC4, Mr Olinger. Why not do that yourself then, rather than ask someone else to do it for you? Post your results and the bases for them, as I have done for my NEC4 analysis.
/archives//html/Topband/2014-01/msg00239.html (10,914 bytes)

96. Re: Topband: Grounding the ends of radials (score: 1)
Author: "Richard Fry" <rfry@adams.net>
Date: Sat, 25 Jan 2014 19:34:03 -0600
Elevated radial wires perform much differently than buried radial wires. Elevated, horizontal radial wires having self-resonant 1/4 wavelength used as all, or part of an elevated counterpoise for a m
/archives//html/Topband/2014-01/msg00259.html (9,339 bytes)

97. Re: Topband: Question - optimum number of radials (score: 1)
Author: "Richard Fry" <rfry@adams.net>
Date: Fri, 14 Feb 2014 06:00:00 -0600
The r-f loss at the operating frequency in a set of buried radials varies with the conductivity and permittivity of the earth in which they are buried. The NEC4.2 study below shows that for poor eart
/archives//html/Topband/2014-02/msg00209.html (9,699 bytes)

98. Topband: Affect of Unequal-length Buried Radials on Monopole Radiation Patterns (score: 1)
Author: "Richard Fry" <rfry@adams.net>
Date: Tue, 1 Jul 2014 05:33:21 -0500
Here is a clip of a post I made on another website in answer to a question there, which might be of interest here also... Below is a link to a graphic from a NEC4.2 study showing how unequal-length b
/archives//html/Topband/2014-07/msg00000.html (7,628 bytes)

99. Topband: Affect of Unequal-length Buried Radials on Monopole Radiation Patterns (score: 1)
Author: Richard Fry <rfry@adams.net>
Date: Tue, 01 Jul 2014 14:39:28 -0500
K3VAT: Just to clarify: 60 radials are 1/4 wave and 60 radials [appear to be] 1/8 wave, is that correct? Yes, that's correct. _________________ Topband Reflector Archives - http://www.contesting.com/
/archives//html/Topband/2014-07/msg00002.html (7,272 bytes)

100. Topband: Modeling the proverbial "vertical on a beach" (score: 1)
Author: "Richard Fry" <rfry@adams.net>
Date: Sat, 9 Aug 2014 18:23:58 -0500
Just to note that the low-angle radiation produced by monopoles is not accurately shown by a NEC model/study that does not include the surface wave, regardless of whether one or two ground-plane medi
/archives//html/Topband/2014-08/msg00070.html (8,745 bytes)


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