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1. Topband: Effect of current max not at base of vertical. (score: 1)
Author: "Richard Fry" <rfry@adams.net>
Date: Sun, 25 Sep 2011 07:16:55 -0500
The conductivity chart for the continental U.S. published by the FCC shows a conductivity of 8 mS/m for the Great Lakes. Below is a link showing the groundwave coverage contours of WATZ in Alpena, MI
/archives//html/Topband/2011-09/msg00134.html (9,527 bytes)

2. Topband: bottom fed antenna causing broad band signal? (score: 1)
Author: "Richard Fry" <rfry@adams.net>
Date: Sat, 29 Oct 2011 11:05:30 -0500
The radiator configuration in the OP by Paul N0AH could provide some rather good performance on 160m. Below is a link to calculations showing the inverse distance groundwave fields it could produce a
/archives//html/Topband/2011-10/msg00210.html (7,258 bytes)

3. Topband: Hindering factors in the science of back yard 160m vertical ins (score: 1)
Author: "Richard Fry" <rfry@adams.net>
Date: Sun, 6 Nov 2011 04:41:34 -0600
That isn't exactly correct, Guy. The 1937 real-world experiments of Brown, Lewis & Epstein of RCA Labs includes measured data for sets of of radials varying in number from 2 to 113, and in length fro
/archives//html/Topband/2011-11/msg00021.html (10,489 bytes)

4. Topband: Hindering factors in the science of back yard 160m vertical ins (score: 1)
Author: "Richard Fry" <rfry@adams.net>
Date: Mon, 7 Nov 2011 09:29:40 -0600
________________ The complete data/paper from BL&E is available as item 4 at http://rfry.org/Software%20&%20Misc%20Papers.htm _______________________________________________ UR RST IS ... ... ..9 QS
/archives//html/Topband/2011-11/msg00027.html (7,874 bytes)

5. Topband: Hindering factors in the science of back yard 160m vertical installations (score: 1)
Author: "Richard Fry" <rfry@adams.net>
Date: Tue, 8 Nov 2011 05:27:13 -0600
Guy: Below are responses to a few of the statements in your recent post on this topic. miscellaneous downward extrapolation of dense and uniform radial systems. The purpose of the BL&E experiments wa
/archives//html/Topband/2011-11/msg00030.html (11,579 bytes)

6. Re: Topband: Hindering factors in the science of back yard 160m vertical (score: 1)
Author: "Richard Fry" <rfry@adams.net>
Date: Thu, 10 Nov 2011 04:28:55 -0600
The data taken by BL&E applies to different conditions than the data plotted in my paper. The BL&E data shows the groundwave field from monopoles where the propagation path is so short that the affec
/archives//html/Topband/2011-11/msg00052.html (9,089 bytes)

7. Re: Topband: Hindering factors in the science of back yard 160m vertical installations (score: 1)
Author: "Richard Fry" <rfry@adams.net>
Date: Mon, 14 Nov 2011 07:03:44 -0600
Guy - some selected comments to your recent post on this topic... If 15 and 30 radials were/are dunned by BL&E, how would that legitimize the use of even fewer of them by hams? But in any case, the B
/archives//html/Topband/2011-11/msg00104.html (12,702 bytes)

8. Re: Topband: EIRP Measurement (score: 1)
Author: "Richard Fry" <rfry@adams.net>
Date: Wed, 22 Feb 2012 07:14:30 -0600
The maximum power radiated by a short monopole antenna system may be calculated using equations found in standard engineering texts. The link below shows a system with a 50 ft monopole radiating 1 wa
/archives//html/Topband/2012-02/msg00325.html (7,419 bytes)

9. Re: Topband: Fwd: radals fer 160m vertcal (score: 1)
Author: "Richard Fry" <rfry@adams.net>
Date: Fri, 4 May 2012 05:43:29 -0500
The link below leads to two graphics showing the __accurately measured__ fields using various numbers of buried radials of 0.274 and 0.412 wavelengths (radial lengths as measured in free space). Thes
/archives//html/Topband/2012-05/msg00012.html (8,191 bytes)

10. Re: Topband: Fwd: radals fer 160m vertcal (score: 1)
Author: "Richard Fry" <rfry@adams.net>
Date: Fri, 4 May 2012 10:07:58 -0500
Just to note that the graphics I linked to were part of the 1937 benchmark experiments and I.R.E. paper of Brown, Lewis & Epstein of RCA Laboratories, and is the basis for the FCC requirements for th
/archives//html/Topband/2012-05/msg00018.html (8,733 bytes)

11. Re: Topband: Fwd: radals fer 160m vertcal (score: 1)
Author: "Richard Fry" <rfry@adams.net>
Date: Fri, 4 May 2012 19:10:56 -0500
Those tending toward such beliefs should be interested in the clip at the link below, as well as the BL&E study linked earlier in this thread. Note the logical conclusions therefrom that the radiatio
/archives//html/Topband/2012-05/msg00024.html (9,277 bytes)

12. Re: Topband: Fwd: radals fer 160m vertcal (score: 1)
Author: "Richard Fry" <rfry@adams.net>
Date: Sat, 5 May 2012 07:07:11 -0500
This link http://www.commtechrf.com/documents/nab1995.pdf leads to a paper by Clarence Beverage with some real-world results for monopoles with elevated wires used as a counterpoise. Here is a quote
/archives//html/Topband/2012-05/msg00031.html (10,861 bytes)

13. Re: Topband: Fwd: radals fer 160m vertcal (score: 1)
Author: "Richard Fry" <rfry@adams.net>
Date: Sat, 5 May 2012 09:57:53 -0500
The FCC requires minimum "efficiencies" for the radiators of various classes of licensed AM broadcast stations, expressed as the r.m.s. field intensity of the ground wave produced at 1 km for 1 kW of
/archives//html/Topband/2012-05/msg00037.html (9,909 bytes)

14. Re: Topband: Fwd: radals fer 160m vertcal (score: 1)
Author: "Richard Fry" <rfry@adams.net>
Date: Sat, 5 May 2012 14:51:18 -0500
RE: Mike Waters asks: It is universally common for the highest radiated fields launched by vertical monopoles to occur in the elevation sector between the horizontal plane and 5 degrees above the hor
/archives//html/Topband/2012-05/msg00041.html (9,028 bytes)

15. Re: Topband: Fwd: radals fer 160m vertcal (score: 1)
Author: "Richard Fry" <rfry@adams.net>
Date: Sat, 5 May 2012 17:33:55 -0500
Carl KM1H wrote [sic]: It certainly wasn't by their ground/surface wave, but their skywave. As to how many hops that took, please note that it would take fewer hops to produce a useful field intensit
/archives//html/Topband/2012-05/msg00043.html (8,562 bytes)

16. Topband: Monopole Radiation Patterns, takeoff angles etc (score: 1)
Author: "Richard Fry" <rfry@adams.net>
Date: Sun, 6 May 2012 07:44:39 -0500
All vertical monopoles of 5/8-wavelength __and less__ radiate (launch) their maximum relative field (E/Emax) in the horizontal plane. This is true no matter what the loss in the r-f ground connection
/archives//html/Topband/2012-05/msg00051.html (8,636 bytes)

17. Re: Topband: Monopole Radiation Patterns, takeoff angles etc (score: 1)
Author: "Richard Fry" <rfry@adams.net>
Date: Sun, 6 May 2012 10:10:45 -0500
Note in the link below that the value of the surface wave at 1 km at an elevation of 50 meters is about 110 uV/m, which is not much less than the 113 uV/m field shown by the NEC far-field analysis at
/archives//html/Topband/2012-05/msg00054.html (8,652 bytes)

18. Re: Topband: Monopole Radiation Patterns, takeoff angles etc (score: 1)
Author: "Richard Fry" <rfry@adams.net>
Date: Sun, 6 May 2012 13:21:13 -0500
If that were true, the low-angle radiation would not move up to create a lobe centered on a "takeoff angle." But in any case, the graphic linked below (Terman) does not show a lack of radiation from
/archives//html/Topband/2012-05/msg00058.html (8,373 bytes)

19. Re: Topband: Monopole Radiation Patterns, takeoff angles etc (score: 1)
Author: "Richard Fry" <rfry@adams.net>
Date: Mon, 7 May 2012 08:21:08 -0500
A common use for correctly defined NEC models shows the electrical characteristics of the radiator system itself. But NEC also will show the field intensities that system will produce at a given dist
/archives//html/Topband/2012-05/msg00075.html (9,558 bytes)

20. Re: Topband: Monopole Radiation Patterns, takeoff angles etc (score: 1)
Author: "Richard Fry" <rfry@adams.net>
Date: Tue, 8 May 2012 08:17:58 -0500
Groundwave propagation losses increase directly with frequency and inversely with earth conductivity. However my statements in this thread, and the graphics I have linked to do not support the concl
/archives//html/Topband/2012-05/msg00111.html (10,932 bytes)


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