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1. [TenTec] One complicated radio! (score: 1): Author: John Rippey <w3uls@3n.net>; Date: Mon, 24 Nov 2003 09:09:41 -0500; "Xtal filter - 500 (or 1000 if you don't have the 500) DSP BW - 600 (adjust lower for QRM) Threshold - ~21 uV (vary +/- depending on QRN) Decay - 20 dB/S (vary +/- depending on QRN) RF Gain - 100 (ma; /archives//html/TenTec/2003-11/msg00647.html (7,738 bytes)
2. Re: [TenTec] One complicated radio! (score: 1): Author: "Grant Youngman" <nq5t@comcast.net>; Date: Mon, 24 Nov 2003 08:50:27 -0600; I'm not so sure we aren't OVER complicating things :-) There is a lot of fliexibility, for certain. But the only non-typical control that's on that list is "threshold". I doubt that you'll see a mea; /archives//html/TenTec/2003-11/msg00648.html (7,360 bytes)
3. [TenTec] One complicated radio! (score: 1): Author: Bill Tippett <btippett@alum.mit.edu>; Date: Mon, 24 Nov 2003 10:09:33 -0500; John, did you miss the part where I said the settings should work for all but 1% of QSO's? If you want to extact maximum performance from any product, whether it is a radio, camera, or automobile, yo; /archives//html/TenTec/2003-11/msg00651.html (7,719 bytes)
4. [TenTec] One complicated radio! (score: 1): Author: Barry N1EU <n1eu@yahoo.com>; Date: Mon, 24 Nov 2003 07:30:31 -0800 (PST); NQ5T commented "But the only non-typical control that's on that list is "threshold" That's true Grant, but Bill commented on the fact that threshold, bandwidth, and rf gain interact in a way never ex; /archives//html/TenTec/2003-11/msg00653.html (7,737 bytes)
5. Re: [TenTec] One complicated radio! (score: 1): Author: Kc9cdt@aol.com; Date: Mon, 24 Nov 2003 11:14:07 EST; OK, Guys, help me ut with this. I am a new ORION user. Are these issues (the interaction of RF gain, AGC threshold and decay, and BW) design issues, meaning does the ORION design / implementation hav; /archives//html/TenTec/2003-11/msg00656.html (8,203 bytes)
6. Re: [TenTec] One complicated radio! (score: 1): Author: Kc9cdt@aol.com; Date: Mon, 24 Nov 2003 11:26:37 EST; Speaking of 'threshold' being a new user of ORION... the first thing I noticed when using ORION, and doing an A/B test with my $1400 746 PRO was the noise level of the RX. Since then I have learned a; /archives//html/TenTec/2003-11/msg00657.html (8,520 bytes)
7. Re: [TenTec] One complicated radio! (score: 1): Author: "Grant Youngman" <nq5t@comcast.net>; Date: Mon, 24 Nov 2003 10:44:13 -0600; I wasn't disagreeing with that at all, and appreciate Bill's observations on what works best in his environment. That kind of information helps all of us. Just commenting (as Bill did, earlier) that; /archives//html/TenTec/2003-11/msg00658.html (8,375 bytes)
8. Re: [TenTec] One complicated radio! (score: 1): Author: Kc9cdt@aol.com; Date: Mon, 24 Nov 2003 15:05:14 EST; OK, Just my experience... No, you really cant use the radio out of the box. Well, maybe if the bands were real quiet (unlike present days with the Sun going nuts on us and the cycle going downhill).; /archives//html/TenTec/2003-11/msg00660.html (8,612 bytes)
9. Re: [TenTec] One complicated radio! (score: 1): Author: ac5e@comcast.net; Date: Mon, 24 Nov 2003 20:15:32 +0000; One size does not fit all, either in clothes, radios, or much of anything else. Since every operators conditions; antenna, noise floor, desired use, and of course those all important personal tastes;; /archives//html/TenTec/2003-11/msg00663.html (10,367 bytes)
10. [TenTec] One complicated radio! (score: 1): Author: Bill Tippett <btippett@alum.mit.edu>; Date: Mon, 24 Nov 2003 15:40:18 -0500; BW) design issues, meaning does the ORION design / implementation have some problems? OR... are these issues necessary to get a better performing RX function. Great questions Lee! The simple answer i; /archives//html/TenTec/2003-11/msg00664.html (10,825 bytes)
11. RE: [TenTec] One complicated radio! (score: 1): Author: Don Rasmussen <wb8yqj@yahoo.com>; Date: Mon, 24 Nov 2003 14:10:36 -0800 (PST); Bill, It took me almost 2 years to figure out why I wasn't using my DSP based transceiver optimally on CW. They keep talking about this "learning curve" with Orion. I can't help but think that Orion; /archives//html/TenTec/2003-11/msg00667.html (11,002 bytes)
12. Re: [TenTec] One complicated radio! (score: 1): Author: "Stuart Rohre" <rohre@arlut.utexas.edu>; Date: Mon, 24 Nov 2003 17:46:35 -0600; I can't agree that the Orion would not become easier to operate with study of the manual instructions and practice. Think back to how strange you felt when switching from a clutch and manual shift ve; /archives//html/TenTec/2003-11/msg00674.html (9,421 bytes)
13. Re: [TenTec] One complicated radio! (score: 1): Author: Kc9cdt@aol.com; Date: Mon, 24 Nov 2003 19:55:07 EST; Pete, Thanks for the information and the encouragement! So, I 'can' get ORION to be a pleasant radio to listen to, and to be a lot quieter?? Wednesday it is supposed to be back here from TT. So I wil; /archives//html/TenTec/2003-11/msg00676.html (7,980 bytes)
14. [TenTec] One complicated radio! (score: 1): Author: John Rippey <w3uls@3n.net>; Date: Mon, 24 Nov 2003 20:00:59 -0500; My thanks to the people who responded both privately and on this reflector to my not-quite-facetious comments this a.m. regarding the Orion's seeming complexity. I can easily differentiate myself fro; /archives//html/TenTec/2003-11/msg00677.html (9,452 bytes)
15. Re: [TenTec] One complicated radio! (score: 1): Author: Kc9cdt@aol.com; Date: Mon, 24 Nov 2003 20:05:52 EST; Bill, Thanks for the great information and sharing your experience. My thing is SSb on 20 - 10. It does seem to me that a lot of folks like ORION on CW and on LOW bands (160) . I do't even have an an; /archives//html/TenTec/2003-11/msg00678.html (8,571 bytes)
16. Re: [TenTec] One complicated radio! (score: 1): Author: ac5e@comcast.net; Date: Tue, 25 Nov 2003 01:45:23 +0000; Yes, Lee, you can indeed get the Orion to suit your tastes. When I don't have a few kids over to enjoy contesting my preference is 20M DXing and ragchewing. It took me a while to get it like I like i; /archives//html/TenTec/2003-11/msg00679.html (9,266 bytes)
17. [TenTec] One complicated radio! (score: 1): Author: Bill Tippett <btippett@alum.mit.edu>; Date: Mon, 24 Nov 2003 21:43:32 -0500; Most of my experience on SSB with Orion has been on 10 meters, primarily in the CQ WW SSB. Here are my notes from that contest describing how Orion performed: http://dayton.akorn.net/pipermail/tentec; /archives//html/TenTec/2003-11/msg00684.html (9,019 bytes)
18. Re: [TenTec] One complicated radio! (score: 1): Author: Kc9cdt@aol.com; Date: Mon, 24 Nov 2003 22:13:14 EST; Bill, OK, thanks, I really don't know what you man by quiet passband. Do you mean lack of other interfering sigals? or what? Lee _______________________________________________ TenTec mailing list Te; /archives//html/TenTec/2003-11/msg00691.html (8,001 bytes)
19. [TenTec] One complicated radio! (score: 1): Author: Bill Tippett <btippett@alum.mit.edu>; Date: Tue, 25 Nov 2003 06:19:46 -0500; lack of other interfering sigals? Yes. I believe it may be due to the IMDDR3 performance not creating internal distortion products within the passband. Whatever the reason, it was noticeably differen; /archives//html/TenTec/2003-11/msg00702.html (8,332 bytes)
20. Re: [TenTec] One complicated radio! (score: 1): Author: "Tom Rauch" <w8ji@contesting.com>; Date: Tue, 25 Nov 2003 07:30:01 -0500; I'm a little puzzled by that. Most of the IM we hear is from transmitters, not generated in receivers. The typical SSB transmitter IM3 is in the -25 to-30dB (below one tone of two equal tones). A ty; /archives//html/TenTec/2003-11/msg00703.html (9,701 bytes)

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