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[WriteLog] Cabrillo confusion

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Subject: [WriteLog] Cabrillo confusion
From: bob@cytanet.com.cy (Bob Henderson)
Date: Wed, 17 Jul 2002 20:54:58 -0000
Thanks Zev, That's good to know.  It might be a good idea if contest
organisers were to point out in their rules that dupe penalties etc don't
apply to Cabrillo submissions.

73

Bob 5B4AGN, P3F, ZC4ZM


----- Original Message -----
From: "Darack, Zev" <Zev.Darack@banklink.com>
To: "'Bob Henderson'" <bob@cytanet.com.cy>; <Writelog@contesting.com>
Sent: Wednesday, July 17, 2002 6:20 PM
Subject: RE: [WriteLog] Cabrillo confusion


> No, log checking software looks at the dupes and removes them.  All dupes
> should be listed in the log and there should be no mark in the cabrillo
file
> indicating dupes.
>
> 73,
> Zev N2WKS
> http://www.qsl.net/n2wks
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Bob Henderson [mailto:bob@cytanet.com.cy]
> Sent: Wednesday, July 17, 2002 7:23 AM
> To: Writelog@contesting.com
> Subject: [WriteLog] Cabrillo confusion
>
>
>
>
>  I too am concerned about my Cabrillo file for the IARU test.  Can anyone
> shed some definitive light on this subject?
>
> So far as I can determine the layout of the Cabrillo file produced by WL
> matches the layout specified at www.kkn.net/~trey/cabrillo/  for the IARU
> contest.
>
> The specified layout is bereft of scoring and multiplier detail but Dave
> K4JRB has confirmed that the Cabrillo log checking engine used by the
judges
> will correctly score logs based on the prescribed format.  So I guess that
> is ok.
>
> The one thing still causing me concern is that the Cabrillo output file
does
> not mark duplicates.  Now, given that a duplicate contact occurs because
the
> station worked believes I am not in his log whereas I believe we have
> already worked, these QSO's need to remain in the log .  If I delete
> duplicates then I maybe deleting the only valid contact I had with a
> station.  BUT the IARU rules are very specific in that rule 13 stipulates
> that for electronic logs a one-QSO penalty will be assessed for a
miscopied
> call sign or a duplicate QSO claimed for QSO credit.
>
> This looks like a Catch 22 to me.  Leave the QSOs in and get a Rule 13
> penalty assessed.  Take 'em out and risk removing valid QSOs!!!!!
>
> It seems the course of least risk is for me to manually remove the
> first QSO of any duplicate pair on the basis the station called me a
second
> time because he was convinced we didn't work first time around.  Problem
> here is that if the station finds our first QSO when he unravels his log
at
> the end of the contest then there is no certainty he would delete our
first
> QSO from his log.  He might easily delete the second QSO.
>
> The BIG question is: Should Writelog have marked duplicates as such
> in the Cabrillo output file?
>
> 73
>
> Bob 5B4AGN, P3F, ZC4ZM
>
>
>
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