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Re: [VHFcontesting] Unsubstantiated Rumor

To: "Kutzko, Sean, KX9X" <kx9x@arrl.org>
Subject: Re: [VHFcontesting] Unsubstantiated Rumor
From: Zack Widup <w9sz@prairienet.org>
Date: Sun, 27 Jul 2008 23:54:07 -0500 (CDT)
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If you go back and find the original posting, you'll find the original 
quote was a suggestion made by Nate WY0X. The paragraph just before the 
quoted "rule" was stated by him to be a controversial proposal by him, 
that's all.

73, Zack W9SZ

On Sun, 27 Jul 2008, Kutzko, Sean, KX9X wrote:

> Gentlemen-
>
> QSOs with a station that does not submit a log are indeed counted. A QSO is 
> not removed from a submitted log merely because it is with a "unique" call. 
> There could be other issues with the QSO that could get it removed from a 
> submitted log, however.
>
> 73,
>
> Sean Kutzko KX9X
> Contest Branch Manager
> ARRL - The national association for Amateur Radio
> 225 Main Street
> Newington, CT  06111 USA
> (860) 594-0232
> email: kx9x@arrl.org
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Jim Worsham [mailto:wa4kxy@bellsouth.net]
> Sent: Sun 7/27/2008 6:07 PM
> To: 'Mike Metroka'; 'Vhfcontesting Remailer'
> Cc: Kutzko, Sean, KX9X
> Subject: Unsubstantiated Rumor
>
> Guys, I am fairly certain that this is not true.  If you make a contact with
> someone during a contest and they don't turn in a log the contact doesn't go
> away for you.  If that were the case we would loose half the contacts we
> make at W4NH.  I have copied KX9X to get the definitive answer.  Sean, could
> you please address this?  Thanks.
>
> 73
> Jim, W4KXY
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: vhfcontesting-bounces@contesting.com
> [mailto:vhfcontesting-bounces@contesting.com] On Behalf Of Mike Metroka
> Sent: Sunday, July 27, 2008 6:00 PM
> To: 'Vhfcontesting Remailer'
> Subject: Re: [VHFcontesting] missing log grid circling and
> undocumentedrovers
>
> Nate WY0X  Wrote:
> If some guy doesn't send in a log, all contacts with that
> "undocumented" participant vaporize, for EVERYONE that worked him.
>
>
> IMHO this is absolutely the wrong approach as eliminating all contacts with
> stations who did not turn in a log would penalize stations who go out of
> their way to pick up additional contest points from stations who do not
> normally enter into the VHF/UHF/uWave contests.  Case in point:  I routinely
> visit the FM portions of the bands looking for those "extra" contacts that
> will help me get ahead of the pack.  During those FM QSOs I routinely and
> gladly explain that there is a contest going on and what it is all about.  I
> not only get a contest Q but maybe some day some of those FM'ers will join
> the weak signal contest ranks and add to the fun!
>
> Eliminating contacts from stations who did not bother to turn in a log will
> surely lead to less contacts in the logs (which helps to justify our use of
> spectrum) and less activity (which could lead to contests going away).
> 73
> Mike WB8BZK/R
>
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