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[VHFcontesting] RE: VHFcontesting Digest, Vol 22, Issue 8

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Subject: [VHFcontesting] RE: VHFcontesting Digest, Vol 22, Issue 8
From: "David M. Benton" <wb4jgg@bellsouth.net>
Reply-to: wb4jgg@arrl.net
Date: Sat, 9 Oct 2004 08:37:48 -0400
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Roger,
A few more thoughts. What about requesting some tower space for you antennas
say half way up? Probably not. But it's worth asking.

If the cellular phone Co. is bought out by another bigger company, request
the
right to renegotiate the lease. Don't lock yourself in for too long a lease
now.

And if the cellular phone Co. goes out of business, request that the tower
and
facilities revert ownership back to you. But if the liability issue is too
great
with maintence, tower lights, and the FAA, ect.; you may want it removed.

I've always had visions of satellite phones like Iridium and others putting
the cellular phone system out of business. That would leave hundreds of
"abandoned"
cell towers all over the country available to be occupied by Hams! I don't
think
thats going to happen any time soon.

David
WB4JGG




Hello, All,

I am asking for advice from the collective wisdom of the VHF and
VHF-Contesting lists.

I have been approached by a cellular company wanting to put up a tower on
my property and of course to lease that space.

My immediate response on reading the letter was, "Are you crazy?"  I had
this response of course because of concerns about EMI in both directions,
me to them and them to me.

I am however by virtue of the fact that my property is quite high, and
probably sees every cell tower for more than 10 miles in all directions
already exposed to multiple cell towers, at least a couple of which are
fairly close [I would guess on the order of 0.5 to 1.0 mile away, but that
is just a very rough guess].  I have a few bleeps and bloops on 903, but
that is it in terms of problems as far as I know.  I am not aware of any
desensing on the other bands {I operate 50 MHz thru 24 GHz weak signal
terrestrial, and 144 MHz EME}.  I use cavity filters before the preamps on
144 MHz EME, and helical filters on 50 thru 903 MHz before the preamps.

The amount they offer as a starting point for negotiation is not large,
but it would cover my property taxes and in addition leave me with more
money to spend annually on ham radio than I would ordinarily allow myself
to spend.  So I am starting to consider this, thinking that maybe
suffering some additional bleeps and bloops on 903 would be a small price
to pay for the financial benefits of such an arrangement.  My wife of
course thinks this is a good deal, and has already figured out that if I
do this it will be 'x' years before the rent we receive from the deal will
pay off what I have already spent on ham radio-related expenses I have
incurred at the property.  So there are domestic advantages to the deal.
;)

Other thoughts that occur to me:

1.  No neighbor problems currently with my present towers.  This could
potentially cause some I would think.  And if I don't do the deal, and
make that known, it could be a positive if complaints ever surfaced.

2.  If the cellular signals are strong enough, I could suffer significant
problems on other bands [besides 903] due to mixing products.

3.  I don't know how MUCH rent / other benefits it is reasonable to ask
for.  I faintly recall a QST article where I believe the author got in
addition to rent a new tower, antennas, maintanence, etc.  Does anyone
have knowledge of the 'going lease rates', which I am sure vary a lot?  I
am in Southeastern Pennsylvania.

4.  I would need to have some agreement that the cell company would need
to accept any interference that occurred from me, with the worst result
allowed being that they would terminate the agreement.  No other damages
allowed.  And maybe they would have to leave the tower in place if they
left.

Any thoughts from those who have been down this road, or considered it, or
know someone who has, would be appreciated.

Thanks in advance, and

73,

ROger W3SZ



--
Roger Rehr
W3SZ
http://www.qsl.net/w3sz


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