Re: [VHFcontesting] Grid circling time limit problem....possible solution.

[Ed Kucharski <k3dne@adelphia.net>]

Dave,
Congrats on the "New Grandpa Dave" status!
Oops!  You're right (as well as a couple of others that responded to my 
comment).   I interpreted Fred's comment incorrectly.  I was thinking more 
about the random vs. scheduled concept than as a function of 
frequency.   He did state VHF - UHF random contacts and I was thinking 
lower microwave contacts (903 - 3456 in my case).  Certainly, making random 
contacts on the microwave bands (even the lower microwave bands) are more 
difficult (loud locals the exception) than with scheduled contacts in this 
range.  Random contacts on VHF and UHF (50 - 432) are even less technically 
challenging - although I still get excited when I work a random 500+ mile 
QSO on 222 or 432.
73,
Ed K3DNE





At 02:22 AM 2/28/2004 +0000, David Olean wrote:
> Ed,
>     I have to agree with Mr. Lass. I would not compare a scheduled 5 or 10
> GHz  rover contact with a random VHF contact unless my frequency accuracy
> was +/- 30 kHz on 144 depending on what time of day it was, and my beamwidth
> on 144 was 2 degrees or less.  I had to true up the tower to make sure my 10
> GHz beamwidth was including the horizon. I didn't do that on the two meter
> beam.   Now add the same problem on the other end and there ain't no way I
> would say that a  random VHF or UHF contact is the same as one of these
> rover skeds. We are not even talking about the perceived path loss variation
> between bands either.  Power output? The situation may be a little better on
> the lower microwave bands, but my 3456 beamwidth is under 3 degrees too.
>     Maybe if the 10 GHz rover was very close by, you could say it was easy,
> but most contacts we make are pretty long haul. If it was easy on
> microwaves, it would not be half the fun!
> 73
> Dave K1WHS
> (New Grandpa Dave)
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Ed Kucharski" <k3dne@adelphia.net>
> To: "Fred Lass" <felasstic@yahoo.com>; <vhfcontesting@contesting.com>
> Sent: Friday, February 27, 2004 10:19 PM
> Subject: Re: [VHFcontesting] Grid circling time limit problem....possible
> solution.
>
>
> > At 01:12 PM 2/27/2004 -0800, Fred Lass wrote:
> >
> > >
> > >I do not see a problem with a large M/M group sending a microwave rover
> to
> > >a distant grid square.  The technical challenge of such QSO's are far
> > >greater than random VHF or UHF contacts.
> > >
> > >73,  Fred  K2TR
> >
> > Neither do I.  As long as that rover QSO's with other stations in ADDITION
> > to the "large M/M group" and any associated rovers who sent that microwave
> > rover out to the distant grid square(s).  I don't see the technical
> > challenge being greater than random VHF or UHF contacts however.  Random
> > QSO's most certainly are more challenging than pre-arranged (scheduled)
> QSO's.
> > 73,
> > Ed K3DNE
> >
> >
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