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Re: [VHFcontesting] ARRL VHF+ contest proposals: input invited

To: Mike Hasselbeck <mph@swcp.com>, VHFcontesting@contesting.com
Subject: Re: [VHFcontesting] ARRL VHF+ contest proposals: input invited
From: John Geiger <johngeig@yahoo.com>
Date: Fri, 20 Feb 2004 18:17:02 -0800 (PST)
List-post: <mailto:vhfcontesting@contesting.com>
Well said Mike.  I can't see how the new point rules
encourage anyone to add more bands.  Since a 2.3G QSO
would count the same pointwise as a 6 meter QSO, I
would do better making a few WSJT skeds than I would
adding new bands.  Not exactly the way to encourage
activity on the higher frequencies.

73s John NE0P


--- Mike Hasselbeck <mph@swcp.com> wrote:
> > Finally, we believe it is time to be more
> definitive and state
> > unequivocally that grid circling and captive
> roving are highly
> > undesirable practices and that no rover station
> should engage in them.
> 
> I can't see how simply stating that practices are
> "undesireable"
> accomplishes anything tangible.  All these
> undesireable activities occur
> in complete adherence to the rules.  The California
> rovers even stated in
> their recent write-up that they attempted to work
> anyone they could hear
> because of concern about being labeled captive
> rovers.  People who engage
> in any serious competition (and it's clear that many
> are VERY serious)
> want to have clear, precise rules.  What if I happen
> to run into another
> rover at a grid intersection and we both had the
> intention of activating
> all 4 grids?  Because grid circling is
> "discouraged", are we not allowed
> to contact each other?  Perhaps from just one grid?
> Two grids?  Having
> vagueries is guaranteed to create problems.  What
> happens if the score
> checkers discover what they deem to be grid
> circling?  Do these rovers get
> disqualified?  Take a guess who won't be back for
> the next contest.
> 
> If the California guys want to invest the kind of
> time, money, and energy
> into such an effort to set a record, God bless 'em. 
> I think it's a bit
> extreme if not silly, but who cares?  I can't
> imagine doing every contest
> in this manner would remain very entertaining for
> very long.
> 
> No matter what rules you make, serious contesters
> will figure out how to
> best exploit these rules and win.  I respect and
> admire such people, but
> other folks will be grumpy because they didn't win
> or have the resources
> to do it.  So be it.  It's the nature of
> competition.
> 
> Finally, I find it hard to believe that messing with
> the rules -
> especially if they get more complicated - is going
> to significantly
> throttle up participation.  The implication is:
> Someone has been debating
> whether or not to add a 70-cm yagi to the tower,
> "...but unless the
> contest committee invokes a new distant grid
> multiplier, dammit, I'll
> invest my money elsewhere and stay off UHF."  People
> participate in spite
> of the rules, not because of them!
> 
> There is always going to be inequity and only a few
> winners.  I willingly
> get clobbered every time out, but participate for
> the excitement and
> challenge of the contest.
> 
> WB2FKO
> 
> 
> 
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