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Re: [VHFcontesting] 6m, 2m, 70cm EME

To: "'Zack Widup'" <w9sz.zack@gmail.com>, "'VHF Contesting Reflector'" <vhfcontesting@contesting.com>
Subject: Re: [VHFcontesting] 6m, 2m, 70cm EME
From: <w5znjoel@gmail.com>
Date: Fri, 27 Sep 2024 08:27:28 -0500
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Hi Zack,

I have 4 Cushcraft 17B2's that I have had in EME operation since the CW days 
back in 1990's.

There "may" be better designs these days but they have garnered me WAS and DXCC 
on 144 MHz.

73 Joel W5ZN

-----Original Message-----
From: VHFcontesting <vhfcontesting-bounces+w5znjoel=gmail.com@contesting.com> 
On Behalf Of Zack Widup
Sent: Friday, September 27, 2024 8:17 AM
To: VHF Contesting Reflector <vhfcontesting@contesting.com>
Subject: Re: [VHFcontesting] 6m, 2m, 70cm EME

Hi Joel,

What kind of antenna system are you using on 144 MHz?

Bob KH6O (now an SK) had a large array of helical antennas for EME on 432.
It looked like a giant box spring. He sent me some photos years ago.

73, Zack W9SZ

On Fri, Sep 27, 2024 at 7:34 AM <w5znjoel@gmail.com> wrote:

> Hello Ev,
>
> I operate EME on all of those bands (current and "back in the day) 
> plus
> 222 MHz. Of course, the best person to get feedback from for the type 
> of operating you're inquiring about would be Peter, KA6U. Also Gene KB7Q.
>
> 144 MHz will have the most activity, followed by 432 then 50 MHz. With 
> a small portable station you will have to use the digi modes. The 
> 2-meter folks still hang on to JT65B, the 50 and 432 gang use Q65.
>
> When Farraday rotation is not in play I can work a single yagi station 
> with 100 watts on 144 and 432. 6-meters is more difficult as you will 
> need some power with a single yagi.
>
> Chat with Peter or Gene, they can tell you more than you probably want 
> to know about portable EME operating !!!!!
>
> 73 Joel W5ZN
>
> 50 MHz - 4x7 LFA 1.5KW
> 144 MHz 4x17 1.5 KW
> 222 MHz 4xFO15 1.5 KW
> 432 MHz 8xFO25 1.5 KW
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: VHFcontesting <vhfcontesting-bounces+w5znjoel= 
> gmail.com@contesting.com> On Behalf Of Ev Tupis via VHFcontesting
> Sent: Friday, September 27, 2024 6:47 AM
> To: VHF Contesting eMail Remailer <vhfcontesting@contesting.com>
> Subject: [VHFcontesting] 6m, 2m, 70cm EME
>
> Of the 6, 2, and 70cm bands (those that are most likely to be in a 
> modern
> HF+ radio), which band has been shown to support EME with the least 
> HF+ overall
> ERP?  I'm thinking "portable EME" where it isn't possible to transport 
> big antennas or a generator to have a kw amp. :-)
>
> Assume that this portable station would target QSOing with only the 
> "top tier" of well equipped DX stations.
>
> I'd be interested in only recent experience rather than "back in the day".
> Also interested in both CW (human decode) and FTx (machine decode) modes.
> How little power and antenna (ERP) has been successful in making EME
> contact(s) and on what band/mode?
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