Hi Roger,
Yes I agree it would be dangerous. But probably no more so with either feed
system with proper neutral bonding.
73
Gary
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> Roger (K8RI) on TT
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> Subject: Re: [TowerTalk] Challenging Grounding/Bonding Situation ?
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> On 9/12/2014 10:05 PM, Gary Schafer wrote:
>
> My point was that if he had some of the "Old" equipment in the shack
> wouldn't it be dangerous.
>
> 73
>
> Roger (K8RI)
>
> > Ranges and dryers of yesteryear had only 3 wires, 2 hot and
> neutral/ground.
> > They had to be on a dedicated circuit so as to not energize some other
> > appliance on the same feed if there was an open neutral.
> >
> > Now days these appliances all require 4 wires. Old ones are still
> > grandfathered as far as I know.
> >
> > But the discussion was about the main feed to the breaker panel.
> >
> > 73
> > Gary K4FMX
> >
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> Of
> >> Roger (K8RI) on TT
> >> Sent: Friday, September 12, 2014 8:55 PM
> >> To: towertalk@contesting.com
> >> Subject: Re: [TowerTalk] Challenging Grounding/Bonding Situation ?
> >>
> >> On 9/12/2014 9:29 PM, Jim Brown wrote:
> >>
> >> Aren't there are a number of old commercial rigs that violate this in
> >> the PS.
> >> I think our old kitchen range violated it as well, as IIRC I had to
> >> change the wiring when we put in a new cook top.
> >>
> >> 73
> >>
> >> Roger (K8RI)
> >>
> >>> On Fri,9/12/2014 6:00 PM, Bill Turner wrote:
> >>>> Imagine something like a washing machine where the neutral is
> >>>> connected to the frame and down the line the neutral opens up. Now
> >> the
> >>>> frame has the full "hot" voltage on it. The next person to do a
> load
> >>>> will be lucky if they live.
> >>> But that's a false argument, Bill, because, as you noted, it is
> >>> illegal to use the green wire to carry load current, and it's
> illegal
> >>> to connect neutral to ground at any point but the service entrance.
> >>> And also because all wiring within my buildings, and in the similar
> >>> system I described to Shawn, DOES include both neutral and ground
> >>> conductors. I've been through that in both of my buildings, making
> >>> sure that there are no such improperly connected loads.
> >>>
> >>> 73, Jim K9YC
> >>>
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