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Re: [TowerTalk] Arrestor placement

To: David Robbins <k1ttt@arrl.net>
Subject: Re: [TowerTalk] Arrestor placement
From: Jorge Diez CX6VM <cx6vm.jorge@gmail.com>
Date: Sun, 28 Dec 2014 12:56:08 -0200
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Hi

And grounding coaxials is good for other porpoise than protecting equipment, 
for example to reduce noise? Or doesn't help to reduce noise at the station?

Thanks
Jorge
CX6VM/CW5W

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> El 28/12/2014, a las 09:51, "David Robbins" <k1ttt@arrl.net> escribió:
> 
> The PRIMARY place for arresters is at the equipment you want to protect.  
> Other places like at the base of the tower are only protecting the coax or 
> maybe a remote switch.   To protect the radios put them at the entrance 
> panel, anywhere else is a waste of money.
> 
> David Robbins K1TTT
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> -----Original Message-----
> From: TowerTalk [mailto:towertalk-bounces@contesting.com] On Behalf Of Jim 
> Thomson
> Sent: Sunday, December 28, 2014 04:19
> To: towertalk@contesting.com
> Subject: [TowerTalk] Arrestor placement
> 
> Date: Sat, 27 Dec 2014 18:48:41 +0000 (UTC)
> From: David Gallatin via TowerTalk <towertalk@contesting.com>
> To: "TowerTalk@contesting.com" <TowerTalk@contesting.com>
> Subject: [TowerTalk] Arrestor placement
> 
> 
> Hello all,Somehow I have gotten the idea that one's lightning arrestors are 
> best placed at the bottom of the tower. This seems logical to me. Then I came 
> across another piece that said, no, arrestors are to be placed at the shack 
> entrance panel. Which is it? Or does it matter???73, David, AA9G
> 
> ex W5DCG and KC9EEV
> 
> ##  Install one at the base of the tower AND also where the coax enters the 
> home.  In my case, the two arrestors  are 65 feet apart. 
> The one at the base of the tower is aprx 4  feet above ground.   Base of 
> tower is earth grounded via  3 x 8 foot deep  copper clad 
> ground rods..all cadwelded.   2 ga bare cu wire to each leg of the tower.  
> Another 65 foot of bare 2 ga cu wire, C clamped to 
> basement entrance + SPG...where a 4th ground rod is installed...and also 
> cadwelded.   The HOFFI brand lightning arrestor at the
> base of the tower serves other functions.  It’s the interface between the 
> rigid coax from the shack to the base of the tower. 
> Flexible coax from tower lightning arrestor  going up the side of the HDX-689 
> crank up tower.  Lightning arrestor in mounted to the
> spg is the 2nd hoffi brand arrestor.   Remote coax switch box is mounted to 
> the mast.  All braids from each yagi coax is bonded to the
> mast via the remote switch box.   The  lightning arrestor at the base of the 
> tower bonds the coax braid to the base of the tower... via the
> casing of the lightning arrestor. 
> 
> ##  Like K1TTT  points out,  you need a 2nd arrestor where the coax  enters 
> the home.  Now if the tower base is close to where the 
> coax  enters the home, then you could get away with only the one arrestor.   
> If hairpin or beta matches are used on the yagis, the center conductor
> will be bonded to the braid of the coax anyway..right at the feedpoint..via 
> the hairpin or beta match.  In the case of the beta match, both the center
> conductor and braid are bonded to the boom.   Either way, the center 
> conductor is bonded to the braid..which is then bonded to the top of the 
> tower. 
> 
> ##  If it gets past all of that, the  arrestor at the base of the tower 
> should do the trick.   If it gets past that, then it has to get past the 
> arrestor at the SPG.
> If you have a OWA  yagi, the center conductor is not bonded to anything... 
> and the arrestor is def required.   You could always install a 15-50 uh coil
> across the feedpoint of the OWA... which may not be effective for lightning 
> hitting the center conductor side of the DE.   A 3rd arrestor at the top of 
> the
> tower would also work with any OWA yagi. 
> 
> ##  A  35 uh coil  or 12 ga magnet wire wound on a torroid like ICE uses.... 
> at the spg  will also dc ground the center conductor.   ICE uses the back emf
> across the coil to fire the  gas discharge tube that is in parallel with it.  
>  
> 
> Jim   VE7RF       
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