Dear Joe and OMs,
Not sure my previous post made it. I apologized to Joe for mistakenly
reading his posting as implying that stepper motors use brushes. Joe and I
agree they do not. I was not considering or thinking of the brush type
contacts to the element tape.
73 Doug EI2CN
-----Original Message-----
From: TowerTalk [mailto:towertalk-bounces@contesting.com] On Behalf Of
Patrick Greenlee
Sent: 28 February 2015 17:02
To: towertalk@contesting.com
Subject: Re: [TowerTalk] SteppIR
That is why it is called a stepper motor. Its motion is stepwise, not
continuous, think digital not analog. If the steps are small enough and
are taken rapidly enough you can closely simulate the smooth turning of
an analog motor. Of course an advantage of the stepper motor is you can
keep track of where you are by counting the steps and not need a shaft
encoder or other method of tracking position in a system driven by an
analog motor. Stepping motors make position servos simpler.
Patrick NJ5G
On 2/27/2015 9:09 PM, Dick Green WC1M wrote:
> I believe the brushes Joe mentioned are the ones that connect the balun to
> the copper-beryllium element ribbons. Nothing to do with the stepper
motors
> but another potential point of failure.
>
> 73, Dick WC1M
>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Doug Turnbull [mailto:turnbull@net1.ie]
>> Sent: Friday, February 27, 2015 4:25 PM
>> To: 'Joe Subich, W4TV'; towertalk@contesting.com
>> Subject: Re: [TowerTalk] SteppIR
>>
>> Joe and OMs,
>> I do not believe a stepper motor has any brush contacts. It does
> not
>> create the rotating magnetic field in this manner. There are alternate
N
>> and S poles on the rotor and the magnetic field on the stator is varied
>> N-S-N to cause rotation. Am I wrong in my understanding?
>>
>> 73 Doug EI2CN
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: TowerTalk [mailto:towertalk-bounces@contesting.com] On Behalf Of
>> Joe Subich, W4TV
>> Sent: 27 February 2015 15:27
>> To: towertalk@contesting.com
>> Subject: Re: [TowerTalk] SteppIR
>>
>>
>> > My question: With a SteppIR beam, what is the tradeoff of the fixed
>
>> element spacing on gain and pattern? Especially compared to the >
multi-
>> yagis-on-one-boom high end multiband antennas.
>>
>> There is no trade-off in gain. Gain is almost entirely a function of
>> boom length as long as you don't have to few elements. For example,
>> SteppIR antennas all show more gain on 10/12 meters than the multi-
>> monoband yagis simply because the SteppIR antennas utilize the entire
>> boom length on all bands where the multi-monoband antennas typically use
>> 60-70% of the available boom length on each band.
>>
>> Where the boom is "short" and the spacing is narrow, you give up
bandwidth
>> but SteppIR compensates by retuning.
>>
>> When the boom is "long" and the spacing is wide you give up some F/B.
>> For example, the 3 element SteppIR shows F/B of "only" 15 dB on 12 meters
>> and 11 dB on 10 meters vs. 25 dB on 20 and 17 meters. You see similar
F/B
>> declines with the 4 element antenna.
>>
>> With SteppIR the trade off is increased complexity (the stepper motors
and
>> brush contacts) while with the typical overlaid multi- monoband antenna
> the
>> trade off is decreased gain for a given boom length. All of this is
> verifiable
>> with a few hours spent using a good antenna modelling program.
>>
>> 73,
>>
>> ... Joe, W4TV
>>
>>
>> On 2015-02-27 9:51 AM, Al Kozakiewicz wrote:
>>> I was tempted to hijack the Mosley thread, but it should probably be
>> allowed to die peacefully.
>>> I discovered a few years ago that you can't ask any questions where an
>> honest answer might be construed as a criticism on the SteppIR forums.
> The
>> dialog degenerates into something resembling the useless old alt.advocacy
>> newsgroups.
>>> My question: With a SteppIR beam, what is the tradeoff of the fixed
>> element spacing on gain and pattern? Especially compared to the multi-
>> yagis-on-one-boom high end multiband antennas. You're pretty much in the
>> same territory price-wise.
>>> Al
>>> AB2ZY
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