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Re: [TowerTalk] Mini Tribanders at low heights

To: <aa5jg@yahoo.com>, <towertalk@contesting.com>, <dx-is@yahoogroups.com>, <okdxa@mailman.qth.net>
Subject: Re: [TowerTalk] Mini Tribanders at low heights
From: Tim Kass <timkass@hotmail.com>
Date: Mon, 21 Sep 2009 19:53:35 -0400
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Correction...definitely NOT up high...in live in a hole!!   hi hi

 


73, Tim K8WBL
 
> From: timkass@hotmail.com
> To: aa5jg@yahoo.com; towertalk@contesting.com; dx-is@yahoogroups.com; 
> okdxa@mailman.qth.net
> Date: Mon, 21 Sep 2009 19:49:20 -0400
> Subject: Re: [TowerTalk] Mini Tribanders at low heights
> 
> 
> Hey John,
> 
> 
> 
> I have a HB 2 element yagi/moxon (very similar to a Force 12 C3S) at 30 feet 
> up that covers 20 - 10 meters and does a real nice job, much quieter than my 
> center fed 148 foot zepp at 60 feet running on top of trees and good gain 
> over it too. An interesting comparison this weekend, a friend who lives about 
> a mile away has a 3 element tribander, Cushcraft A3S at 60 feet and just put 
> up a short tower (17 feet) and put a 3 element MACO 10 meter monoband beam on 
> it. Well the comparison to others in the area goes like this...his A3S is 
> about 1 "S" unit better than my 2 element yagi-moxon and my yagi-moxon is 
> about 2 "S" units better than his 10 meter monoband...height is important and 
> gives you some significant forward gain..however...also to consider is the 
> F/B figures you get, and the much lower noise figure I get with the beam as 
> compared to the zepp... I would definitely consider the beam and you will be 
> impressed...even a 2 element one is impressive.. you gain only about 1.
> 5 dB with the 3rd element. The old saying goes a long way with this 
> comparison too...you got to hear them to work them...beam definitely hears 
> better!! I live in West Cincinnati in a small city lot, in a little valley 
> area...definitely up high...my 2 meter vertical at 20 feet sucks in any 
> direction.
> 
> 
> 
> 73, Tim K8WBL
> 
> "Everything you want is inside you, All you fear is there as well"
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> > Date: Mon, 21 Sep 2009 10:19:57 -0700
> > From: aa5jg@yahoo.com
> > To: towertalk@contesting.com; dx-is@yahoogroups.com; okdxa@mailman.qth.net
> > Subject: [TowerTalk] Mini Tribanders at low heights
> > 
> > After some antenna damage last year I am still contemplating what HF 
> > antenna to go with. I am now using a homebrew G5RV and have worked about 
> > 105 countries on it this year. I know that on the higher bands it shows 
> > gain in some directions with nulls in other directions (like for K5D on 
> > 20m). 
> > 
> > The only beam I would be able to get up right now would be one of the 
> > smaller tribanders (like a MA5B or a Mosley Mini 32/33) at around 25 feet. 
> > I know that is below the real minimium height to get such an antenna to 
> > play on 20. So here is my question-is it really worth the expense and 
> > effort to put a mini antenna at that height? Would it show much improvement 
> > over a G5RV. I know the G5RV has nulls in some directions, but I could fill 
> > those in with a rotatable dipole or a vertical as well.
> > 
> > 73s John AA5JG
> > 
> > 
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