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Re: [TowerTalk] DIN Connectors You Can't Solder To

To: "Richard (Rick) Karlquist" <richard@karlquist.com>,"Roger (K8RI)" <k8ri-on-towertalk@tm.net>
Subject: Re: [TowerTalk] DIN Connectors You Can't Solder To
From: Pat Barthelow <aa6eg@hotmail.com>
Date: Tue, 20 Nov 2007 10:26:31 -0800
List-post: <mailto:towertalk@contesting.com>
Great  feedback, guys....Ouch... I wonder if it was an intentional design 
decision  by Yaesu, or just a poorly toleranced connector.  I hate it when
marketing folks purposely demand incompatible designs in order to sole 
source parts and accesories.

I answered my earlier question, with a quick search of the net, and 
found huge numbers of high volume cable suppliers that, if you 
do targeted searches on their internal search engines, you should
be able to find nearly any connector or adapter or cable  you need.
I once got a baptism of pressure when I had to do a 13 pin DIN by
hand for an underwater videocam, while at sea....each hour at sea
not collecting data or such, costs bundles when ship time is  $10K/day.  
The looks over your shoulder by the crew while you strip, tin and 
solder, add years to your life, in mere weekends.

Here are some good sites to use to avoid having to do the solder
job on DIN (Or other connectors)

Big Variety of cables:
http://www.cablestogo.com/
Pigtailed DIN Cables
http://www.autotoys.com/x/product.php?productid=2059
http://www.autotoys.com/x/product.php?productid=2058
http://www.autotoys.com/x/product.php?productid=2057
Radio Specific DIN, and others
http://www.universal-radio.com/catalog/parts/dincable.html
RF SMA etc cables
http://www.smelectronics.us/microwavecablesman.htm?gclid=CJX8vb39648CFQw3YQodn0BtJ
Lots of Cables:
http://www.action-electronics.com/pccabtst.htm?zoom_highlight=cables

All the Best, 73,
Pat Barthelow aa6eg@hotmail.com
http://www.jamesburgdish.org
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Jamesburg Earth Station Moon Bounce Team

> Date: Tue, 20 Nov 2007 09:43:14 -0800
> From: richard@karlquist.com
> To: K8RI-on-TowerTalk@tm.net
> CC: towertalk@contesting.com; johnb3030@comcast.net; aa6eg@hotmail.com
> Subject: Re: [TowerTalk] DIN Connectors You Can't Solder To
>
> The Yaesu band data is a special version of the 8 pin. The common
> 8 pin cables won't fit it (actually they might if you force them into
> the socket real hard).
>
> Rick N6RK
>
> Roger (K8RI) wrote:
>> A search of various vendors, or a Google Search on 8-Pin DIN connectors and
>> cables should find cables of various lengths with 8-Pin DIN connectors. I
>> found what I needed at Amazon and as I recall the Mouser catalog may also
>> list cable assembliles
>>
>> Roger (K8RI)
>>
>>> I wonder if there are any vendors that supply various DIN and other style
>>> connectors, wired up, on one end and having raw tails, that can be
>>> soldered to more easily. Or perhaps complete cables, soldered, with the
>>> good molded stress reliefs, etc that are double ended, so that you could
>>> buy a 4 footer double ended DIN , chop in in half and put the particular
>>> connector needed on the raw end.
>>>
>>> All the Best, 73,
>>> Pat Barthelow aa6eg@hotmail.com
>>> http://www.jamesburgdish.org
>>> Subscribe: http://bambi.net/jamesburg.html
>>> Jamesburg Earth Station Moon Bounce Team

>>>> Date: Tue, 20 Nov 2007 09:48:59 -0600
>>>> From: johnb3030@comcast.net
>>>> To: towertalk@contesting.com
>>>> Subject: Re: [TowerTalk] DIN Connectors You Can't Solder To
>>>>
>>>> I've been following this thread with interest since I need to buy an 8
>>>> pin DIN connector myself for the band data connector of my FT-1000.
>>>>
>>>> I notice in Jameco's catalog that they now have many products available
>>>> in both conventional and "RoHS compliant" versions, and this includes
>>>> DIN connectors. I will certainly NOT be ordering an RoHS compliant DIN
>>>> connector.
>>>>
>>>> It seems obvious that the design of the DIN plugs is such that they are
>>>> surely intended to be hand soldered. That raises the question of what
>>>> the manufacturers of the RoHS compliant version are doing to ensure that
>>>> this is possible. There must be a type of wire solder and flux that is
>>>> RoHS compliant. Otherwise why make an RoHS compliant connector which
>>>> requires hand soldering? What solder and flux should be used?
>>>>
>>>> I'm also wondering in the case of the original poster, who received
>>>> unsolderable connectors with some ICE filters, if it is possible that
>>>> ICE obtained their connectors from the least expensive source possible,
>>>> and if that source was possibly some off-brand third world vendor who
>>>> wasn't terribly interested in quality control. Is this an isolated
>>>> problem or one which many have experienced?
>>>>
>>>> Does anyone know who actually makes DIN connectors?
>>>>
>>>> 73,
>>>>
>>>> John, K9MM
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