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Re: [TowerTalk] Pulling coax through PVC pipe

To: Chick Allen <cca3rd@aol.com>, k4to.dave@gmail.com, towertalk@contesting.com
Subject: Re: [TowerTalk] Pulling coax through PVC pipe
From: rayn6vr <rayn6vr@gmail.com>
Date: Sun, 28 Jan 2018 14:33:52 -0700
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Home Depot, Lowe's and electrical supply stores carry cable pulling lubricant. 
It's cheap, and easy to use. 
And as you probably know, everything must be kept clean and straight that goes 
into the conduit. In fact, you may want to pull some wet, then dry rags through 
the conduit to verify that it is clean.
I have a thought, but, someone may have better experience, what if you use your 
tractor and pull out all the original cables with a new pull line attached? 
That way you can inspect the control cables and possibly reuse them.
GL, and let us know how it goes.
Ray, N6VR 


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-------- Original message --------From: Chick Allen via TowerTalk 
<towertalk@contesting.com> Date: 1/28/18  11:01 AM  (GMT-07:00) To: 
k4to.dave@gmail.com, towertalk@contesting.com Subject: Re: [TowerTalk] Pulling 
coax through PVC pipe 

Dave -

    You may want to check with a local electrician, preferably one that does 
commercial work.  They use a lubricant when doing long pulls.

73 de Chick / NW3Y



-----Original Message-----
From: Dave Sublette <k4to.dave@gmail.com>
To: kj6y--- via TowerTalk <towertalk@contesting.com>
Sent: Sun, Jan 28, 2018 5:24 pm
Subject: [TowerTalk] Pulling coax through PVC pipe

Good morning,28 years ago I buried a 1.5 inch schedule 40 PVC pipe in the 
ground and ran some low loss coax and a three wire electrical control cable 
(14-2 house wiring cable).  The 14-2 is used to operate a remotely control 
phasing box for my 80 meter four square.  The coax feeds either my 160 vertical 
or the 80M array.Well it’s time to replace the coax.  The PVC pipe is 250 feet 
long and in a straight line(thankfully).  I suspect I will have to pull both 
cables with the new cables tied to the end.  I’ve never done this before and 
could use a little advice.  I googled but most of what I found started with 
empty pipe and ran a “string mouse” through with a shopvac. When I installed 
the cables initially, I laid them out on the ground and slipped the pipe over 
them ten feet at a time. Fortunately, there is a fair amount of room left in 
the pipe.  The two cables did not fill up the space entirely.My first question 
is if there is some sort of lubricant I should use to reduce friction?That’s 
also my last question, but I know there must be several things to consider I am 
betting that this group has the answers. I have a come-along, a tractor, and a 
fair amount of tools.  I’m just not sure how to proceed.I am eager to see what 
you all have to say.Thanks.Dave, 
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