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Re: [TowerTalk] Springs for erecting loops nd dipoles

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Subject: Re: [TowerTalk] Springs for erecting loops nd dipoles
From: Rod Elliott <wultabat@sympatico.ca>
Date: Tue, 27 Jan 2009 06:10:09 +0000
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Hi John...

Here's a pragmatic approach to spring selection...

1. My support lines are rigged right over the tops of the trees... up 
high where the branches are slender (1/2 inch diameter range). At that 
size, branches are still strong enough to withstand the tension needed 
to pull the antenna flat, and yet are flexible enough to act as natural 
springs protecting the antenna.

2. These support lines are typically 3/16 inch braided nylon. This has 
plenty of strength, plus good abrasion resistance. They normally survive 
at least three years before scuffing through. I could care less about 
that, 'cuz my antenna is a wire vee beam, which I re-aim frequently to 
different headings... often enough that I usually see a scuffed line 
before it needs changing.

3. From the top ends of the support lines I run 1/16 inch diameter 
braided nylon mason line from just clear of the tree-tops out to the 
ends of the antenna wires. The actual antenna wires are #14 AWG solid 
soft-drawn copper, each leg just under 100 feet long. I use #14 because 
it is relatively inexpensive, it's strong enough to survive, and light 
enough you can pull out the sag without over-stressing anything. 
Everything else equal, heavier wire sags more. And... height is of the 
essence for DXing.

4. By now you may be thinking *NOT STRONG ENOUGH*. If so, I respectfully 
disagree. I live in ice storm alley, just across the border from upstate 
New York. Every winter we have at least one major ice storm (major = > 
1/2 inch radial ice, plus winds in the 70 km/hr range.) In the seven 
years I've used this antenna system, I've had three masts taken down and 
over 500 trees severely damaged by winter ice. However, in that time 
there have been *ZERO* failures of antenna wires or support lines.

5. This is due to two things... 1. The natural springiness of the 
treetop branches, and 2. The springiness of the mason line, which will 
stretch at least 10% before it comes anywhere near breaking. Together, 
these are stiff enough to pull the #14AWG flat, but springy enough to 
prevent breaking it. So no need for "real" springs, or pulleys etc, 
which always ice up solid anyway.

6. BTW, this Vee beam is a penniless DXer's delight... loud, inexpensive 
and easy to maintain. When looking down the hill toward Africa and South 
America, it models >15 dBi (think 5-el yagi) below 5 degrees elevation. 
The bad news is: it's an absolute pig to rotate, 'speshially on a stormy 
winter's night... hi! But I love it.

73 + GL!
Rod Elliott VE3UW
DXCC HR, etc.







John King wrote:
> Has anyone found an appropriate spring for protecting dipoles when the 
> supports such as trees sway? Maybe a name hardware supplier has such a spring?
> 
> I am going to use Dacron with a strength of about 750 lbs, to suspend the 
> wire antennas, and would like to be able to pull the vertical loop and 
> dipoles strung between trees taunt and at the same time protect the antennas 
> from breakage. I am sure the rope is much stronger than the copper wire that 
> will be used.
> 
> The spring must be strong enough to hold the antenna taunt YET give enough to 
> protect the antenna.
> 
> I am going to use old water hose on the Dacron where it goes over the limbs 
> to prevent scuff damage to the Dacron. Also, I like the idea of using a 
> weight on the tail of the Dacron near the earth to allow movement of the 
> trees without breaking the Dacron. The weight can be judiciously selected to 
> keep the antenna taunt and still provide give for the line.
> 
> Your suggestions will be appreciated. 73, John, K5PGW
> 
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