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Re: [TowerTalk] alpha spid rotator

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Subject: Re: [TowerTalk] alpha spid rotator
From: Kirb Nesbitt <knesbitt@nucleus.com>
Date: Mon, 12 Feb 2007 22:22:12 -0700
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Also, the low-ball declared value may come back to haunt you in the 
event of a claim against the carrier.
Should you incur a loss or damage to your shipment, the carriers insurer 
may determine value based on the declared amount as per the export 
declaration. Guess what, that "$100.00" IC-7800 that you bought on ebay 
which arrived looking something like a prop from a John Carpenter movie, 
will be worth exactly that - 100 beans (yes, AB beans).

73,

Kirb - VE6IV
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Kelly Taylor wrote:
> Unfortunately, here's the deal on the "just fill out a token amount" 
> request:
>
> If it ever comes to pass that Customs finds out the EXPORTER fradulently 
> filled out a customs form, it's the EXPORTER who earns the criminal charges.
>
> Coming into Canada, USED equipment gets dinged at the same rate as new, only 
> on a value less than new.
>
> If it's something that's exempt from duty, it remains exempt from duty, new 
> or used. However, there are also sales taxes, both federal and provincial 
> (except for Kirby's utopian Alberta) that are due.
>
> Not everything that's amateur radio is exempt from duty, however. And NAFTA 
> doesn't apply since the AlfaSpid isn't manufactured in a NAFTA country.
>
> The ideal situation for the NA Spid distributor would be a U.S. shipping 
> address, much like the parts distributor Digi-Key, located in Thief River 
> Falls, MN, has a warehouse in Winnipeg used for shipping Canadian orders. Of 
> course, that's a decision Alfa Radio must make based on the amount shipped 
> to the U.S.
>
> 73, kelly
> ve4xt
>
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "larryjspammenot@teleport.com" <larryj@teleport.com>
> To: <TowerTalk@contesting.com>
> Sent: Sunday, February 11, 2007 10:46 PM
> Subject: Re: [TowerTalk] alpha spid rotator
>
>
>   
>> I've shipped rotators and other ham gear that I've sold on ebay, etc. to 
>> Canada via the U.S. Postal System, filling out the customs declaration 
>> with the description of the equipment, and as being "Used Amateur Radio 
>> Equipment". I don't know if anyone ever wound up having to pay an 
>> additional customs charge at the other end. But the buyers always asked me 
>> to declare the value as just some very "minimal" amount, or list it as a 
>> "gift",  for whatever I was sending. I think they were afraid that they'd 
>> get dinged for an additional amount when they received it, no matter how 
>> it was labeled.
>> LJ
>>
>>
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>>     
>>> From: Kirb Nesbitt <knesbitt@nucleus.com>
>>> Sent: Feb 11, 2007 4:53 PM
>>> To: TowerTalk@contesting.com
>>> Subject: Re: [TowerTalk] alpha spid rotator
>>>
>>> Yes, it has for sometime (at least stuff coming into Canada). Applies to
>>> all Amateur radio electronics, however I'm not sure if this exemption
>>> extends to antenna hardware. I seem to recall being dinged duty on some
>>> of my Force12 stuff a few years back.
>>> Don't mistake the fact that your shipment may be exempt from duties and
>>> the "brokerage fees" that the carriers now like to impose irregardless.
>>> They will nail you either way and it is NOT the responsibility of the
>>> shipper to inform or certainly pay these fees.
>>> I no longer use the brown truck boys due to their excessive fees imposed
>>> at the time of delivery.
>>>
>>> 73,
>>>
>>> Kirb - VE6IV
>>> --
>>>
>>> larryjspammenot@teleport.com wrote:
>>>       
>>>> Somewhere, I had read that when shipping "Amateur Radio Equipment" to 
>>>> Canada, that it was exempt from Customs charges. Was I misinformed?
>>>> LJ
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>
>>>>         
>>>>> From: Alan NV8A <nv8a@att.net>
>>>>> Sent: Feb 10, 2007 1:09 PM
>>>>> To: towertalk reflector <towertalk@contesting.com>
>>>>> Cc: Al Williams <alwilliams@olywa.net>
>>>>> Subject: Re: [TowerTalk] alpha spid rotator
>>>>>
>>>>> I ordered my AlfaSpid at Dayton 2005. The additional shipping charge 
>>>>> was
>>>>> somewhat higher than the original estimate, but I do not recall 
>>>>> anything
>>>>> about a customs fee.
>>>>>
>>>>> The whole amount showed as a single charge to my credit card.
>>>>>
>>>>> 73
>>>>>
>>>>> Alan NV8A
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On 02/09/07 10:56 am Al Williams wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>           
>>>>>> I would like to hear from hams who have purchased an Alpha Spid from 
>>>>>> the Canadian manufacturer as to if there was a customs charge and did 
>>>>>> the manufacturer pay it or did you the customer pay it?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> In October 2005 my Visa statement shows that I paid $1083.99 for the 
>>>>>> rotator with mouse option.  Shortly thereafter I received a bill from 
>>>>>> the shipper (DHL Express) for $25.38.  My senior memory recalls that I 
>>>>>> called the 800 number of the shipper and explained that the 
>>>>>> manufacturer said that I wasn't responsible to pay for it and gave 
>>>>>> them the manufacturers representative telephone number (I had also 
>>>>>> called the manufacturer who said that there was some sort of mix-up 
>>>>>> between them and the shipper)..
>>>>>> Yesterday I received a bill from a collection agency in Texas for the 
>>>>>> customs charge plus an additional $6.35 penalty!
>>>>>>
>>>>>> This is a small charge and I could just go ahead and pay it but I 
>>>>>> would like to know if it is usually paid by Alpha Radio, Ltd?
>>>>>>
>>>>>>             
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