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Re: [TowerTalk] Big Grip Installation

To: K9MA <k9ma@sdellington.us>, towertalk@contesting.com
Subject: Re: [TowerTalk] Big Grip Installation
From: Grant Saviers <grants2@pacbell.net>
Date: Tue, 9 Apr 2019 22:11:40 -0700
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You are correct, earlier Phillystran had a parallel strand kevlar core and big grips do not work with it because the cover will easily slip off. An epoxy filled Spelter (tapered) socket is used to terminate them. New Philly is constructed like wire rope, twisted lays in a twisted bundle and the cover won't slip, thus the big grips work.

I don't think there is a big grip for the smallest Phillystran so cable clips are used, but these must be repeatedly tightened until they cut through the cover and bear on the kevlar core.

I did come across a Phillystran factory note that shows using swage wire rope sleeves as an alternative termination to wire rope clips. I have some boom guys using this technique made by another ham and they look good, but I don't have any data on yield strength. I'd bet they work better than wire rope cable clips.

One reason to consider swage sleeve terminations is for yagis that may be affected by the length of the boom grounded or element connected guy grip.

The tie wrap provides no strength, just insurance to keep the grip from unwinding. Ice sliding down a guy can do that.

If you are using wire rope clips then it is nice to terminate the dead end of the wire rope with a compression sleeve so it doesn't splay out.

Grant KZ1W

On 4/9/2019 18:43 PM, K9MA wrote:
When I put up my tower in 1989, I used 3/16" EHS and big grips. At the time, I don't think anything was normally placed at the end of the big grip. Just to be safe, I put a 3/8 inch cable clamp at the end of each one. That seems to have worked fine. Now I'm replacing the tower, using the same size EHS and big grips, but I'm seeing inconsistent references to using "end sleeves". I can't, however, find any explicit instructions calling for their use.  By contrast, the instructions for installing the big grips on Phillystran specifically call for installation of a nylon cable tie.  (I can see why it might be bad to compress Phillystran with a cable clamp.)

So my question is: Are the end sleeves mandatory, and, if so, can I use cable clamps instead. One obvious disadvantage of the cable clamps is the things can get snagged on them. (Been there, done that.)

FWIW, this time around I'm using Phillystran for the center part of each guy, with a short length of EHS at the tower end and a longer one near the ground. I don't think big grips were available for Phillystran in 1989.

Thanks and 73,

Scott K9MA

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