I had to Google that:-)
I thought that 28 days was the standard. Reading an old LM-470 manual it
says 7 days, so I guess it has changed since time has marched on and I have
gotten older.
Mike
-----Original Message-----
Have you tried Cialis?
Sorry....
Rusty
----- Original Message -----
From: "Mike" <noddy1211@sbcglobal.net>
To: <towertalk@contesting.com>
Sent: Wednesday, March 25, 2009 12:28 AM
Subject: Re: [TowerTalk] Anyone know the CURRENT Los Angeles CountyZoning
Rule
> Just been through the process here in Tracy, California for a 70 foot
> crank
> up tower. The key is to go to the City and know your facts first, don't
> go
> to city asking for advice on what to do, you could open a can of worms
> that
> you may not be able to close. Stand in front of a mirror and practice
> saying "Antenna Support Structure for Amateur Radio", not tower.
>
> I paid $17.26 to start the permitting process, and 72.31 for the permit.
> They will ask if you are using a contractor and the total cost of the job
> including Antenna Support Structure, in my case I did everything myself
> with
> the help of friends. The Tower was used and has no value, if you get my
> drift! The permit price is directly related to the price of the job. They
> have a minimum, which in my case was approximately $600.00 which relates
> to
> a $72.26 permit price.
>
> I would add that The City of Tracy is a particularly "Ham Friendly" city
> and
> actually told me they were, so I never ended up having to do some of the
> stuff like a position sketch on a plot map etc.
>
> The only tough time I had was with the City Structural Engineer, he red
> inked the hell out of the plans and calculations. He did not like the
> tension and compression calculations on the base and found about 3 errors
> on
> the tower manufacturers calculations, plus it did not state if the rebar
> was
> tied and was the rebar weld able. In my case the base has the bolt plate
> stitch welded to number 10 rebar and the engineer wanted to see the
> calculations for stitch welding and not continuous welding.
>
> I went in to detail on this last part because you might want to get plans
> and calculations looked at and corrected by your own Engineer. I was
> lucky
> because my tower is made by Tashjian Towers and Karl Tashjian was very
> helpful in putting everything right on the drawings and calculations and
> bringing them up to date to conform with the city Engineers calculations
> at
> no cost to me! My friend across town who purchased a brand new tower from
> another major tower manufacture here in California was not so lucky in
> getting that company to correct their calculations and had to pay 600
> bucks
> his own Engineer to correct them and consequently has a height limitation.
> I would add that the Tracy Engineer is one of the top five structural
> Engineers in the country, he consults for Tracy one day a week, he makes
> his
> real money consulting for NASA, so I was unlucky from that point of view.
>
> Poured the concrete today, so 28 days to wait for my erection.
>
> Mike, K6BR
>
> -----Original Message-----
>
> In a message dated 3/24/2009 11:15:20 A.M. Pacific Daylight Time,
> towertalk-request@contesting.com writes:
>
>> On Monday, I had the joy of contacting the Los Angeles County
> Planning Department. The question I had was/is; what is(if any) the tower
> and
> antenna height limit for an AMATEUR RADIO station(operator) living within
> Los
> Angeles County, in County area(meaning not in an incorporated area)?All
> though the
> question is simple enough, the answer has not been easy to get, in fact
> I'm
>
> still waiting for a "corrected" response. The initial response I got from
> a
>
> "regional planner" was, "communication towers, 35 feet!" I immediately
> corrected him and stated its not a "communications tower" but rather a
> "Amateur
> Radio Tower". He paused and then replied, "oh.... I see, I will have to
> look in
> to this and I'll get back to you."
>
>> Well, I'm still waiting.
>
>
> What you do is go down to the LACPD and buy a copy of the building
> regulations. Then YOU can figure out what you need. If you ask 3
> different
> people in the building department a question like this, you'll likely get
> 3
>
> different interpretations.
>
> Cheers,
> Steve K7LXC
> TOWER TECH -
> Professional tower services for hams
>
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