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Re: [TowerTalk] Winchs - Pulling not stirred

To: "Jim Miller" <JimMiller@STL-OnLine.Net>,<towertalk@contesting.com>
Subject: Re: [TowerTalk] Winchs - Pulling not stirred
From: "K8RI" <K8RI-on-TowerTalk@tm.net>
Date: Sat, 17 Mar 2007 20:53:21 -0400
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----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Jim Miller" <JimMiller@STL-OnLine.Net>
To: <towertalk@contesting.com>
Sent: Saturday, March 17, 2007 6:42 PM
Subject: [TowerTalk] Winchs - Pulling not stirred


> (Winches = tower talk) rated in "pulling" capacity
>
> My turn - Speaking of "pulling"......
>
> (WHAT is that "pulling" supposed to relate to anyway.  As far as I can 
> see,
> it means absolutely NOTHING.  More totally meaningless marketing 
> propaganda.
>
> PULLING WHAT???
> Pulling a pallet load of cement bags (3000 lbs) over a rough concrete 
> floor?
> Pulling a car (3000 lbs) downhill in neutral without the brakes on?
>
> HOW is one to relate "pulling" to something useful?
> What coefficient of friction are they using?

If we can make it zero on a level surface, just think how much you could 
save by replaciing all the cable with fishing line<:-))

>
Roger Halstead (K8RI and ARRL 40 year Life Member)
N833R - World's oldest Debonair CD-2
www.rogerhalstead.com
> Always wondered about it.
> 73, Jim
>
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Greg" <ab7r@cablespeed.com>
> To: "Dino Darling" <dino@k6rix.com>; "KT2Q" <dxdx@optonline.net>
> Cc: <towertalk@contesting.com>
> Sent: Saturday, March 17, 2007 1:48 PM
> Subject: Re: [TowerTalk] Tower winch failure
>
>
>> Also keep in mind MOST other winches are designed/rated for pulling, not
>> lifting.  Please don't think because a winch is rated for 1500 lbs 
>> pulling
>> it will lift that weight safely, it will not.  The Fulton/Bulldog winches
>> are rated for pulling and lifting, that's why tower manufacturers supply
>> them with their towers.  If you are careful not to get lube on the discs
> and
>> maintain it properly.  I plan to replace the discs and pawl assembly 
>> every
>> few years.....probably whenever I replace the cable.  May be a bit
> overkill,
>> but cheap insurance and peace of mind.
>>
>> GL
>> Greg
>> AB7R
>>
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: towertalk-bounces@contesting.com
>> [mailto:towertalk-bounces@contesting.com]On Behalf Of Dino Darling
>> Sent: Saturday, March 17, 2007 11:32 AM
>> To: KT2Q
>> Cc: towertalk@contesting.com
>> Subject: Re: [TowerTalk] Tower winch failure
>>
>>
>> You'll be looking long and hard to find a better winch.  I have used
>> these winches on towers and in the traffic control industry (by the
>> thousands) for over 20 years.  A winch failure is not impossible, but
>> it is usually due to poor maintenance in harsh environments.
>>
>> The engineers picked the 1550 for a reason.  The 2550 has more
>> capacity at a reduced (1/3) speed.  BTW, how long did the 1550 last?
>>
>> If you are comfortable with picking a winch that may have not been
>> used for your application, then that is your prerogative.  I'd
>> suggest going with the original 1550 and maybe upgrade to the 2550 if
>> you don't mind spending the extra $$$.  Also, there is a KX version
>> of the 1550 which "offer plated gear covers for improved gear train
>> protection, and a dual ratchet system for added load control security."
>>
>> Here is a post from 2003...
>> http://lists.contesting.com/_towertalk/2003-08/msg00556.html
>>
>> Search for winches...
>> http://www.nextag.com/Fulton/fulton-winches/brand-html
>>
>> Good luck!
>>
>>
>> At 09:26 AM 3/17/2007, KT2Q wrote:
>> >  I was hoping the 2550 had a heavy duty mechanism compared to the
>> > 1550. I guess I'll have to look elsewhere for a better winch.
>> >
>> >Tony KT2Q
>>
>> Dino - K6RIX
>> dino@k6rix.com
>>
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