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Re: Topband: Effect of current max not at base of vertical.

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Subject: Re: Topband: Effect of current max not at base of vertical.
From: "GeorgeWallner" <aa7jv@atlanticbb.net>
Date: Thu, 22 Sep 2011 21:08:11 -0400
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On Tue, 20 Sep 2011 17:17:58 -0400
  Guy Olinger K2AV <olinger@bellsouth.net> wrote:
> I share the frustration over the very minimal amount of 
>data out there.
> 
> However...
> Erection of a 260 foot vertical in a testing 
> environment... 

G'Day Topbanders,

I am not sure how general a conclusions could be drawn 
from my experience, but I have a set up that is somewhat 
relevant to this thread, and have done some on the air 
testing with it.

I have two verticals, about 2 meters apart. One is 21 
meters tall and the other one is 28 meters tall with a 
high Q center loading inductor to make it resonate at 1900 
kHz (this is my 160 m antenna). This antenna is fed via a 
low loss antenna coupler. The two antennas share a common 
ground system, which is salt-water to the east and a 
buried field of 40 radials of varying length between 30 
and 120 feet long to the west. On 80 meters the shorter 
antenna is a 1/4 wave vertical, while the longer one could 
be considered to be a half-wave vertical.

I have done extensive tests on 80 meters, comparing the 
two antennas towards the east. I have used the reverse 
beacon network, and a couple of friends' SDR-s in Europe 
for these comparisons.  In tests from my Florida QTH, 
towards the east (towards Europe) and the side where the 
salt water is, the taller antenna has almost always been 
better by 2 to 3 dB. Towards the west (and the land side) 
I have not done enough testing to draw conclusive results, 
but I feel that the 1/2 wave vertical is better in that 
direction too.

I understand the 80 meters is not 160 meters, but...

I would be happy to set up a test sched with anyone to my 
west or north-west, who is interested in carrying these 
studies further.

73,

George, AA7JV

PS: BTW, I almost always use the 1/4 vertical on 80 
meters, even towards the east, as going through the 
coupler is a PITA (as Guy has pointed out).
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